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if pedophilia is a mental disorder and not a sexual orientation then we need to cover all areas including the opposite of pedophilia. what is this? that's underage boys and girls having sexual attractions to adults, yet we don't talk about that, the fact is that there is a REAL sexual attraction some boys and girls have for adults, what do you think boys are masturbating to? child porn? that's not easy to find. Society normalizes it and will refer to it simply as a crush or something else that doesn't fully explain what it really is so it's not just puberty... I remember in elementary school boys checking out female teacher's butts and breasts and I remember in high school girls were always flirting with an English male teacher and even talking about the sexual acts they would like to do with him, so it's sexual and not just physical attraction. If pedophilia is a mental disorder then a word of the opposite of this should exist and it should also be consider a mental disorder and should be included in the DSM and there should be psychological treatment for this too.. I saw a video of a boy trying to look at a woman's cleavage who was sitting right next to her and his face was getting so close and when she caught him she smiled and so did he. You see what I mean? Now what if it was the other way around, what if it was the woman checking out the boy's crotch? Oh you don't like that now? So why are you being biased? Why can't people recognize how wrong this is too? ( if you believe pedophilia is wrong )We are ONLY talking about the sexual attraction, not molesting or rape.
Pedophile laws have been enacted to protect minors whose maturity levels and brains have not fully developed. Are you looking for excuses and laws to protect sexually violent predators who prey upon them, or yourself? Sure, it's easy to become attracted to another. That doesn't mean you can or should respond to or act upon that attraction.
Pedophile laws have been enacted to protect minors whose maturity levels and brains have not fully developed. Are you looking for excuses and laws to protect sexually violent predators who prey upon them, or yourself? Sure, it's easy to become attracted to another. That doesn't mean you can or should respond to or act upon that attraction.
scroll up I was only talking about ONLY the sexual attraction, you posted what I told you what I wasn't talking about....
actually they are not the same thing, the truth is that if it's considered a sexual orientation in the future since that's the way it looks it is heading then what you are basically saying that if you are heterosexual you are at risk for raping and the same thing goes for the other sexualities, you want to talk about the sexual abuse, I am only here to talk about the sexual attraction, that's it, stick to the TOPIC, I created the thread and it is only about sexual attraction and so far you haven't said anything about underage being sexually attracted to adults
right now it's considered a mental disorder and still pedophiles does not equal child molesters
Last edited by RockyOrtiz; 08-06-2017 at 09:57 PM..
I really don't get your 'opposite' theory, but I did see something I thought was strange on a commercial for women's jeans. They showed a young boy reacting to her butt and her face responding to the boy, I was like ew!
But to your topic. Of course young people who are at the age of feeling sexual are going to look at adults.
Pedophilia specifically refers to children who have not gone through puberty and there is nothing to look at. They are not sexually developed. It's considered a sickness to be attracted to someone who is not sexually matured.
So you know: the DSM almost changed it to a sexual orientation but was met with fury. That would legitimize their attractions.
I really don't get your 'opposite' theory, but I did see something I thought was strange on a commercial for women's jeans. They showed a young boy reacting to her butt and her face responding to the boy, I was like ew!
But to your topic. Of course young people who are at the age of feeling sexual are going to look at adults.
Pedophilia specifically refers to children who have not gone through puberty and there is nothing to look at. They are not sexually developed. It's considered a sickness to be attracted to someone who is not sexually matured.
So you know: the DSM almost changed it to a sexual orientation but was met with fury. That would legitimize their attractions.
So preteen boys looking at adults in a sexual way, that doesn't bother you at all? Your response was " of course " like that's expected, like it's normal. Do you see anything wrong with this at all? And if not then why do you see something wrong when it's the opposite and we are only talking about sexual attraction. I just went on google and it looks like the youngest mother was only 5 years old. After that it's ages 6, 7, etc...
About the DSM it only shows that eventually pedophilia and hebephilia will be considered sexual orientations in the future.
I don't think it should be considered a criminal offense to have thoughts along those lines--whether you're a tween or even an adult. The problem is acting on them. I read an article once about a counseling center in Germany specifically for pedophiles to have safe and nonjudgmental place to seek counseling. Kind of like Alcoholics Anonymous. The goal was to get them to work through their feelings before they wound up hurting a child.
But I guess that doesn't answer your question. You're wanting to debate whether children looking at adults in a sexual way should indicate mental instability. I don't see how, since they're looking at a sexually mature person. The adult they're fantasizing about is someone who is old enough to consent. The problem lies with the behavior of the adult--if they return the attraction and decide to act on it, knowing the young person cannot legally consent.
Not to just play devil's advocate, but what is wrong with pedophilia being considered a sexual orientation? Is there a value judgment attached to the concept of sexual orientation, or is it just a description of someone's patterns of attraction? I guess perhaps it depends on whether it's a result of nature or nurture. I've read a few articles about pedophilia but have never read a study that was certain whether one can be "born that way."
I don't think it should be considered a criminal offense to have thoughts along those lines--whether you're a tween or even an adult. The problem is acting on them. I read an article once about a counseling center in Germany specifically for pedophiles to have safe and nonjudgmental place to seek counseling. Kind of like Alcoholics Anonymous. The goal was to get them to work through their feelings before they wound up hurting a child.
But I guess that doesn't answer your question. You're wanting to debate whether children looking at adults in a sexual way should indicate mental instability. I don't see how, since they're looking at a sexually mature person. The adult they're fantasizing about is someone who is old enough to consent. The problem lies with the behavior of the adult--if they return the attraction and decide to act on it, knowing the young person cannot legally consent.
Not to just play devil's advocate, but what is wrong with pedophilia being considered a sexual orientation? Is there a value judgment attached to the concept of sexual orientation, or is it just a description of someone's patterns of attraction? I guess perhaps it depends on whether it's a result of nature or nurture. I've read a few articles about pedophilia but have never read a study that was certain whether one can be "born that way."
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Last edited by RockyOrtiz; 08-12-2017 at 04:41 PM..
nobody is talking about acting, I already made it clear many times on this thread we are only talking about sexual attraction, and pedophilia does not equal child molesters, I don't know how many times I have to explain this
This is your first time posting in the thread, so I'm a little confused by your response. I was responding to the OP. I'm referring to the thoughts/feelings more than anything else.
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