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Old 08-14-2017, 03:06 AM
 
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actually they are not the same thing, the truth is that if it's considered a sexual orientation in the future since that's the way it looks it is heading then what you are basically saying that if you are heterosexual you are at risk for raping and the same thing goes for the other sexualities, you want to talk about the sexual abuse, I am only here to talk about the sexual attraction, that's it, stick to the TOPIC, I created the thread and it is only about sexual attraction and so far you haven't said anything about underage being sexually attracted to adults

right now it's considered a mental disorder and still pedophiles does not equal child molesters

Except they are the main offenders of child molest.

 
Old 08-14-2017, 03:23 AM
 
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So preteen boys looking at adults in a sexual way, that doesn't bother you at all? Your response was " of course " like that's expected, like it's normal. Do you see anything wrong with this at all? And if not then why do you see something wrong when it's the opposite and we are only talking about sexual attraction. I just went on google and it looks like the youngest mother was only 5 years old. After that it's ages 6, 7, etc...

About the DSM it only shows that eventually pedophilia and hebephilia will be considered sexual orientations in the future.
that is totally different, its like a child having a fancy for a pop star or film star..
 
Old 08-14-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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that is totally different, its like a child having a fancy for a pop star or film star..
let's go a little more in detail, what do you think preteen boys are masturbating to, pop stars? I was a preteen myself and I know for a fact boys start masturbating at a very young age even before they are preteens and they are masturbating to adult porn, that is just 1 example how we know for a fact it's sexual attraction and not just physical.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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let's go a little more in detail, what do you think preteen boys are masturbating to, pop stars? I was a preteen myself and I know for a fact boys start masturbating at a very young age even before they are preteens and they are masturbating to adult porn, that is just 1 example how we know for a fact it's sexual attraction and not just physical.
And HOW does NORMAL sexual experimentation and exploration in a pre teen even REMOTELY compare to deviant sexual desires of a grown adult toward a prepubescent CHILD...

There is no "opposite of pedophilia"

This whole thread is nonsensical and disturbing to say the least...
 
Old 08-14-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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And HOW does NORMAL sexual experimentation and exploration in a pre teen even REMOTELY compare to deviant sexual desires of a grown adult toward a prepubescent CHILD...

There is no "opposite of pedophilia"

This whole thread is nonsensical and disturbing to say the least...

deviant? they are both sexual attractions, there is an opposite of pedophilia, what you are saying by saying that is that you excuse it and don't find anything wrong with it
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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deviant? they are both sexual attractions, there is an opposite of pedophilia, what you are saying by saying that is that you excuse it and don't find anything wrong with it
Okay have it your way. Technically the opposite of pedophilia can be gerontophilia, attraction to the very elderly.

Let's call them both mental disorders.

Think about it all you want.
Someone with Pyromania gets to THINK about fire.
One with schizophrenia may be THINKING about the voices telling them to push someone off of a bridge.

There are all types of mental disorders, when it becomes a problem for you, like landing in jail for ACTING on your mental disorder, then you should probably get help.

Just let us know when you're ready to discuss whether or not it's ill to ACT on.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:24 PM
 
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deviant? they are both sexual attractions, there is an opposite of pedophilia, what you are saying by saying that is that you excuse it and don't find anything wrong with it
Deviant????

Why the ? mark...

Pedophilia is BY DEFINITION DEVIANT......as in NOT NORMAL.....

There is nothing DEVIANT or ABNORMAL about a pre teen experiencing sexual attraction to an adult...

There is nothing NOT DEVIANT about an adult experiencing sexual attraction to a child...

Do you need this spelled out any more clearly???

Comprehension seems to be a problem for you.....or are you that desperate to try and "legitimize" a truly horrendous DEVIANT behavior by finding an "opposite" as if that somehow makes pedophilia "OK"????
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:33 PM
 
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if pedophilia is a mental disorder and not a sexual orientation then we need to cover all areas including the opposite of pedophilia. what is this? that's underage boys and girls having sexual attractions to adults, yet we don't talk about that, the fact is that there is a REAL sexual attraction some boys and girls have for adults, what do you think boys are masturbating to? child porn? that's not easy to find. Society normalizes it and will refer to it simply as a crush or something else that doesn't fully explain what it really is so it's not just puberty... I remember in elementary school boys checking out female teacher's butts and breasts and I remember in high school girls were always flirting with an English male teacher and even talking about the sexual acts they would like to do with him, so it's sexual and not just physical attraction. If pedophilia is a mental disorder then a word of the opposite of this should exist and it should also be consider a mental disorder and should be included in the DSM and there should be psychological treatment for this too.. I saw a video of a boy trying to look at a woman's cleavage who was sitting right next to her and his face was getting so close and when she caught him she smiled and so did he. You see what I mean? Now what if it was the other way around, what if it was the woman checking out the boy's crotch? Oh you don't like that now? So why are you being biased? Why can't people recognize how wrong this is too? ( if you believe pedophilia is wrong )We are ONLY talking about the sexual attraction, not molesting or rape.
Let's get the facts straight first. Pedophilia is when an adult is sexually attracted primarily to prepubescent children.

The inverse of pedophilia does not exist, because prepubescent children do not experience the same types of biological urges that postpubescent adolescents and adults do. Maybe there is some sort of urge, but I would be hesitant to use the same labels/terminology for it, because it isn't the same.

Now if you are talking about postpubescent adolescents being attracted to adults, no it is not a disorder. Sexual attraction to adults of youth who have reached puberty but are below the age of consent is simply "sexual attraction that the government believes does not exist (or at least pretends not to, in order to make it easier to prosecute exploitative sex)".

Boys viewing pornography is not the inverse of pedophilia, it is the inverse of an urge to host a porn website without age verification, which also has no name. Or maybe it is the inverse of "pedophilic exhibitionism", which is a term I just made up on the spot, meaning the desire of an adult to be seen by a child as sexually attractive.

The age of consent is put in place because the government doesn't know how to actually prove sexual exploitation. So they just presume it on the basis of age.

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Old 08-15-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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deviant? they are both sexual attractions, there is an opposite of pedophilia, what you are saying by saying that is that you excuse it and don't find anything wrong with it
To put this simply, the object of the attraction in the case you're referring to is someone who is sexually mature and of age. So, it seems the consensus on this thread is that it isn't wrong and we "excuse it," as you put it.
 
Old 08-15-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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And HOW does NORMAL sexual experimentation and exploration in a pre teen even REMOTELY compare to deviant sexual desires of a grown adult toward a prepubescent CHILD...

There is no "opposite of pedophilia"

This whole thread is nonsensical and disturbing to say the least...
It certainly is... Im in shock that anyone would compare a child to an adult liking children for sex.
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