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Old 09-30-2023, 04:56 PM
 
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Here's another vote for drug-free treatment. Our society is overmedicated, simply because it's "easier" for both doctor and patient, with ill effects. I wouldn't even consider it unless I had exhausted all other options and things were beyond all hope.
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Old 09-30-2023, 05:29 PM
 
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Yes, sometimes I have to remind myself that zillions of people out there on the roads, in stores, online, etc. are heavily medicated with mood-altering drugs (recreational and pharma) and that it deeply affects their ability to function effectively in the world.
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Old 10-05-2023, 05:23 PM
 
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There seem to be more avenues to reach mental health care than ever before. You just don't know what they are unless you reach out and ask. As for being desirable or not, well, I'm pretty sure most folks would prefer to rely on their own resources as much as possible. However, if self-help isn't helping it's time to try something different. Or not.

It isn't always possible to eliminate the anxiety-promoting thing or person from one's life. Sometimes your realistic option is to learn better ways to coexist with it instead. A counselor can teach you how to disarm the anxiety generator and better coping mechanisms.
Yes, Parnassia, very true. I have OCD, which is an anxiety disorder. It can't be cured, but it can be managed. Knowing what it was that was wrong with me, just being able to identify when I am obsessing or having intrusive thoughts (which admittedly still doesn't always happen right away) and so often being able to figure out the root of the anxiety causing the obsessions/compulsions or intrusive thoughts with skills I learned in therapy has made my life so much better.
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Old 10-12-2023, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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OP here...I saw the psychiatrist. I like him. Many more appointments coming because there's so much to delve deeper into. I have unresolved childhood issues.
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A very knowledgeable counselor once told me that anxiety IS depression.
Spot on...and they can coexist.
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All he will do is give you an SSRI. Don't take it.
He prescribed 3 meds. It might be a band aid solution but I'm no longer incapacitated.
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Old 10-12-2023, 12:54 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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He prescribed 3 meds. It might be a band aid solution but I'm no longer incapacitated.
And the band aid can be temporary, adjustable, and removable. It can provide time and build an emotional buffer zone within which you can do the emotional/mental work that needs doing. IME medication on its own isn't going to solve the problem because it can't address the problem. The person carrying that brain around day in, day out needs to do that. Lots of people label medications a crutch, but IME the word has more than one definition. One is positive, one negative.

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Old 10-12-2023, 06:09 PM
 
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mental health issues can be reversed with gut health -- seen it personally, twice. both had disabling anxiety/panic attacks -- both are now symptom free after working on gut health. there a TON of newer research showing gut dysbiosis as the cause


here's a thread that might help:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/alte...egins-gut.html


edit -- dont expect doctors or psychs to know this stuff. it's not included in their training nor in their procedures - so the ignorance on this topic is pervasive

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Old 10-12-2023, 06:15 PM
 
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just a small sample of scientific papers on gut microbiome/mental health


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37111321/


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33271426/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36941248/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36402501/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36815632/
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Old 10-12-2023, 06:55 PM
 
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I feel over-whelmed and stressed to the max. I can't move off the couch. Simple daily tasks and self-care are huge challenges. It's interfering with all areas of my life. Everything is a struggle.

Any tips for me?
I was initially frustrated by the lack of information in your post, but then so encouraged at your willingness to go and talk to a professional.

I just wanted to point out three things:
1) Tons of people are far more stressed in the last few years, what with covid, politics, economic woes - so no reason to feel as if it's a failing on your part.
2) While you're feeling this as mental distress, keep in mind that it may stem from real-world causes, even subtle ones, like being by pressured by work or family.
3) I was interested that you chose a psychiatrist. Do keep in mind that a psychiatrist has a medical degree, and often automatically thinks in terms of medical causes, wanting to immediately start with medication. Keep alternatives in mind - for instance, you might find that what is stressing you out is too much on your plate and is really a matter of setting priorities, or that even changes in your diet may help.

Good luck.
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Old 10-12-2023, 07:04 PM
 
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OP here...I saw the psychiatrist. I like him. Many more appointments coming because there's so much to delve deeper into. I have unresolved childhood issues.

Spot on...and they can coexist.

He prescribed 3 meds. It might be a band aid solution but I'm no longer incapacitated.

I’m glad that you came back to let everyone know how you’re doing. The 3 meds thing is interesting. I took one SSRI after a death in the family & was never really sure if it helped or not, then stopped taking it b/c of side effects. I know someone who is taking 2 SSRI b/c their anxiety-paralysis was endangering their career, & they are doing so much better now. So, everything is different for everyone, no one size fits all, obviously.

I hope you continue to keep everyone posted & I wish the very best for you. ((hug))
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Old 10-12-2023, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Thank you for the replies. I am taking all your recommendations seriously.
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