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Old 05-11-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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I think they're working on it in many diverse ways --- in the area of education, the justice system and better commerce [not just tourism, which is a mainstay] Now if they can just deal effectivelly with the drug problem and the mordita system, I think they will forge ahead as one of North America's most vital economies - IMHO a least..
that is wonderful. Let them go back there before they wreck our environment and economy. I have no sympathy. I am working well past 65, my grandchildren are vieing (?) for the same educational monies and the same job opportunities that illegal immigrants children are. Why should they have to do that in their own country and apologize for it.....?
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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That goes right to the point, doesn't it ? Why not stay there and work that hard...? Don't have jobs....? Fight for them.....don't feel you are entitled to mine and my grandchildrens. What gives you that right...?
Working hard in mexico means you still get a low salary... Its tempting to make the same amount of money for half of the work by crossing the border... A single individual who has low education, who is struggling to make ends meet will take the easy way out...

If there are jobs being offered with a significant higher pay, people will keep filling them... I dont think it is a sense of entitlement
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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Working hard in mexico means you still get a low salary... Its tempting to make the same amount of money for half of the work by crossing the border... A single individual who has low education, who is struggling to make ends meet will take the easy way out...

If there are jobs being offered with a significant higher pay, people will keep filling them... I dont think it is a sense of entitlement
The sense of entitlement isn't about the human nature to want a better life or to sneak across the border to get a better job, the sense of entitlement is about them protesting the enforcement of our immigration laws and anger when they are.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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The sense of entitlement isn't about the human nature to want a better life or to sneak across the border to get a better job, the sense of entitlement is about them protesting the enforcement of our immigration laws and anger when they are.
I was stating that people IN mexico do not feel entitled to a job in the US as suggested by:

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Don't have jobs....? Fight for them.....don't feel you are entitled to mine and my grandchildrens. What gives you that right...?
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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I could never tell who worked harder........ Cheech or Choong?
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Otongo, Hidalgo
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I agree. Mexicans do work hard. And is not because they are not educated. Many have big families thus a lot of mouths to feed. For example...at the local Centro de Abastos here in Comitan, Chiapas...It is open at 4am..so they are up earlier than that...and it closes around 4pm. Some people there make hundreds of dollars a day, selling quesadillas, tacos, etc. Much more than I make as a teacher...and I am educated. But maybe I need to learn how to diversify..maybe my own school, complete with a taco stand! I have worked in Canada, the US, and now Mexico...and I agree, Mexicans are harder workers.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I didn't mean "not the most educated" as a way of derogatorily saying the "least educated" as in "he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer". My point was not to imply that Mexicans are poorly educated, live in filth, and have no working infrastructure.
Formal education has a way of crushing your intelligence, at least these workers have retained their intelligence. Why the big to-do about being formally educated, which can be a liability to a country.

Just look at those toppling their rulers in the Middle East! The rulers gave many of them a great university education, and there they sit, the dummies, all dressed up and nowhere to go but to topple their rulers!

And what will that accomplish!! More jobs for the overly-educated? Please!

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Old 05-20-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Mexico
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That goes right to the point, doesn't it ? Why not stay there and work that hard...? Don't have jobs....? Fight for them.....don't feel you are entitled to mine and my grandchildrens. What gives you that right...?
Your assumptions are very simplistic.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Your assumptions are very simplistic.
That's a nice way to put it. Very simplistic in her thinking.
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