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I am not moving to Michigan for a job, I am moving for school and because the school I am going to is the only one in the 50 states (disclaimer: that I can find ONLINE) that meets everything I need.
I am moving to NW Michigan, Traverse City, and mine is one of the RARE "moving to Michigan" threads that has miraculously gained nearly unanimous support for the move.
I will be a nurse when I am done with school in 2 years...the economy will not be out of the hellhole it's in, in a mere two years, but nurses can get jobs nearly anywhere, people in Michigan who are, or are married to nurses, have assured me that is the one profession NOT feeling the pain of Michigan's woes.
If nursing in Michigan doesn't work, there was already a company here where I am (florida) that told me already that all i have to do is show them that I have been accepted to a nursing program and they will pay $7,000 towards my nursing education, every $2,000 of which equals a year of working for them (aka I've basically been offered a job as a walkin!). The nurse recruiter told me to go get an acceptance and call her back when I do, she gave me her card.
So, I know my future on that note, whether staying in Michigan (and traverse city looks like I might fall in love unless i hate the winters), or returning here with a job in hand...cause the only reason I am leaving is the many problems unemployment creates for me with children and no job.
So I think your advice was made from the right intentions...but yes, your post was about detroit...and about people moving for work without a job in hand. I don't move anywhere, job or not, without a whooooole lot of research, and I hope no one else does either, whether michigan or anywhere else...
Nursing seems to be a great choice. It should only get better for nurses as the boomers age and begin to need nursing care. As the boomer nurses retire and the boomer population needs nursing care, there should be a huge demand for nurses. The biggest question is going to be who is going to pay for it all?
If you have always lived in Florida you may find the winters a bit of an adjustment but I think you will fall in love with the change of seasons. I have heard they are great in Michigan. I live in Maine and would hate to have summer all year round. Good luck with your studies!
Congratulations on being accepting into a nursing program! Traverse City is a wonderful and beautiful area, I am sure you will enjoy it.
The point of my original thread (which has been closed?) was to give some factual and empirical evidence of why MI is in bad shape, and to provide information other than deeply emotional responses to people considering a move to MI. Certainly, there are great places in MI not connected with Metro Detroit. Many small towns and rural areas are great places to live. Nonetheless, over 50% of MI's population is in Southeastern MI. Metro Detroit is more than a hood ornament, its more like the engine of MI. As that economy implodes, the tax revenue it pays to State (i would guess around 80% of all MI's tax revenue) will drop off. The state is already in the red! The long-term sustainability of State government services will diminish even if they continue selling debt. That is a reality that all Michiganders will have to accept, even if you live up north!
There are a lot of people in denial in MI, and the sooner we accept and understand our problems, the sooner we can fix them. Once again though, Good Luck and enjoy cherries!
I think you'll do well. I worked in a hospital profession for many years before we moved to Michigan so I could quit! My DH got a job here than can support us all since the cost of living is so low here compared to most of the US.
Traverse City is a really neat place. I live too far away to enjoy it, but do travel there for most medical specialists that we see (we live about 90 minutes away).
Munson medical center there has an excellent reputation. It's won several awards and is consistently listed as one of the top hospitals in the country. The schools are great in TC, housing cheap, and yes winters are hard (especially this last one....), but I grew up in places that didn't have severe winters, and I LOVE the winters here. You just got to be willing to go out and enjoy them... skiing, etc...
We moved here about 2 1/2 years ago, and I'd say the hardest part is getting to know people. The culture up here is hard to figure out and to break into. People here don't move around much, and the bad economy has made a lot of people very "sour" (for good reason).
If we lived in TC, I'd consider staying long term, but that's not an option for us, so we may be looking to move on soon to a place where there's more opportunity for me as well as my DH.
IMO, because of the fact that people here have lived here all of their lives (for the most part), they don't recognize many of the good things about this state and this region. It's too bad because in many ways it's better here than most of the country, but I've long ago gotten sick of hearing people COMPLAIN!
I think you're making a very smart move. Look into Munson. TC is a beautiful place with a lot going on. Good luck!
Nursing seems to be a great choice. It should only get better for nurses as the boomers age and begin to need nursing care. As the boomer nurses retire and the boomer population needs nursing care, there should be a huge demand for nurses. The biggest question is going to be who is going to pay for it all?
Long as they pay me...instead of paying towards social security benefits the gov't might need to change it to paying towards senior healthcare....like paying the premiums in advance and sign up for the plan the month you retire, premium-free...
me personally by time i retire from anything i should be able to go be a college professor for a few years to supplement savings and investments, and I should hopefully have not been such a jackass to my children that they won't help cover even my utility bills or have me come live with one of them. I would expect to have either bought and paid off or bought and have renters pay off the mortgage on whereever I am going to rest my old bones...
Children as social security is going to get back in fashion...as it always has been in my country...we don't have welfare which is not necessarily a good thing but it does mean parents are expected to be cared for and not left to their own devices...
People need to pay for their own retirement now cause the boomers will suck up social security like an asthmatic sucks wind. Harshly, and ultrafast...
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Originally Posted by Newdaawn
If you have always lived in Florida you may find the winters a bit of an adjustment but I think you will fall in love with the change of seasons. I have heard they are great in Michigan. I live in Maine and would hate to have summer all year round. Good luck with your studies!
I am from the Caribbean but have lived in Maryland and Colorado...snow is familiar but all these years in florida spoiled me to higher temps...however, inclement weather and a great future/somewhere to live and get by with less than necessary now vs. homelessness and joblessness...hmmmmmm which suits me less?
As long as I have the right gear for it and my kids as well, I'll adjust. I always do.
Congratulations on being accepting into a nursing program! Traverse City is a wonderful and beautiful area, I am sure you will enjoy it.
The point of my original thread (which has been closed?) was to give some factual and empirical evidence of why MI is in bad shape, and to provide information other than deeply emotional responses to people considering a move to MI. Certainly, there are great places in MI not connected with Metro Detroit. Many small towns and rural areas are great places to live. Nonetheless, over 50% of MI's population is in Southeastern MI. Metro Detroit is more than a hood ornament, its more like the engine of MI. As that economy implodes, the tax revenue it pays to State (i would guess around 80% of all MI's tax revenue) will drop off. The state is already in the red! The long-term sustainability of State government services will diminish even if they continue selling debt. That is a reality that all Michiganders will have to accept, even if you live up north!
There are a lot of people in denial in MI, and the sooner we accept and understand our problems, the sooner we can fix them. Once again though, Good Luck and enjoy cherries!
I see/saw your point.
I'll be in pre-nursing til i get the prerequisite classes done (2 semesters)...then on to nursing proper!
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Originally Posted by bluebird39
I think you'll do well. I worked in a hospital profession for many years before we moved to Michigan so I could quit! My DH got a job here than can support us all since the cost of living is so low here compared to most of the US.
Traverse City is a really neat place. I live too far away to enjoy it, but do travel there for most medical specialists that we see (we live about 90 minutes away).
Munson medical center there has an excellent reputation. It's won several awards and is consistently listed as one of the top hospitals in the country. The schools are great in TC, housing cheap, and yes winters are hard (especially this last one....), but I grew up in places that didn't have severe winters, and I LOVE the winters here. You just got to be willing to go out and enjoy them... skiing, etc...
We moved here about 2 1/2 years ago, and I'd say the hardest part is getting to know people. The culture up here is hard to figure out and to break into. People here don't move around much, and the bad economy has made a lot of people very "sour" (for good reason).
If we lived in TC, I'd consider staying long term, but that's not an option for us, so we may be looking to move on soon to a place where there's more opportunity for me as well as my DH.
IMO, because of the fact that people here have lived here all of their lives (for the most part), they don't recognize many of the good things about this state and this region. It's too bad because in many ways it's better here than most of the country, but I've long ago gotten sick of hearing people COMPLAIN!
I think you're making a very smart move. Look into Munson. TC is a beautiful place with a lot going on. Good luck!
Thank you!
My landlord decided to one-up me after I gave him 60 days notice by saying the owner and him decided to have me sign over my rights to my deposit to cover this month and I get out of their place by the end of the month.
He was hostile and rude when i had turned the notice in...but it looks like I may need to get to TC twice as fast as I originally planned cause they want me out of here soon...guess he decided "oh yeah, 60 days, well how about you leave in 30!"
Too bad. It is a good time to buy up here, if you're looking at that. I've lost "deposits" too when I rented. For no apparent reason. IMO, I think deposits should be illegal, since they're often never returned, and the landlords rarely held accountable. They know it costs more to get a lawyer to get it back.
Are you from Florida? I grew up in Louisiana. I'd take 6 months of winter up here over 6 months of heat and humidity down there. I really do think the quality of life in Michigan if far better than most places in the South, and better than parts of rural Oregon where we moved here from. It's different, but I bet you're going to like TC. I'm still shocked at how much money there in in Michigan too. The TC area has tons of it, especially in the summer. It's been declining though. It'll be interesting to see what happens this summer. Since it is such a tight knit community, people really look out for each other. Even though the people are hard to figure out up here, they DO really care about their communities, which is a nice change from out West where no one has very deep roots.
My landlord decided to one-up me after I gave him 60 days notice by saying the owner and him decided to have me sign over my rights to my deposit to cover this month and I get out of their place by the end of the month.
He was hostile and rude when i had turned the notice in...but it looks like I may need to get to TC twice as fast as I originally planned cause they want me out of here soon...guess he decided "oh yeah, 60 days, well how about you leave in 30!"
A**hole. He really is.
Sounds like a jerk you could have problems with. I'd do some googling and find out what your rights are and do it by the letter of the law. I wouldn't have signed nothing, he might be able to come back later on and say that you didn't give a 60 day since he negotiated it into other terms, then you may be responsible for paying rent until he re-rents. I'd clean up the place spotless and before I returned the keys let him know I expect him to sign a letter saying that I don't owe you anything and that the place was left in excellent condition.
Congratulations on being accepting into a nursing program! Traverse City is a wonderful and beautiful area, I am sure you will enjoy it.
The point of my original thread (which has been closed?) was to give some factual and empirical evidence of why MI is in bad shape, and to provide information other than deeply emotional responses to people considering a move to MI. Certainly, there are great places in MI not connected with Metro Detroit. Many small towns and rural areas are great places to live. Nonetheless, over 50% of MI's population is in Southeastern MI. Metro Detroit is more than a hood ornament, its more like the engine of MI. As that economy implodes, the tax revenue it pays to State (i would guess around 80% of all MI's tax revenue) will drop off. The state is already in the red! The long-term sustainability of State government services will diminish even if they continue selling debt. That is a reality that all Michiganders will have to accept, even if you live up north!
There are a lot of people in denial in MI, and the sooner we accept and understand our problems, the sooner we can fix them. Once again though, Good Luck and enjoy cherries!
As has been stated a thousand times before in this forum, while you're certainly entitled to your opinion, your opinion is being covered ad nauseum everywhere you go. The newspapers, the radio, the TV, everywhere in Michigan. You can't go anywhere without people talking about it. So if you happen upon this forum and think that people are in denial, perhaps people are just looking for an outlet where they don't have to think about it 24 hours a day, and can just share good memories and good aspects of Michigan, and actually "help" people (a foreign concept to some).
My apologies MGD for my rant.
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