How to exit from I-394E onto I-94E into the Lowry Hill Tunnel? (commute, best)

[Min-Chi-Cbus]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

Well, lucky for you I don't take that way often. I'm not afraid to merge when I have to though, like on 62 when it goes to 1 lane west of 169. I zipper merge from the right lane on nearly a daily basis along with all of the cars coming onto the freeway late.....there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

No, there IS something wrong with it. That's another clear case of cheating IMO and when people do it to me and I know they know better I make them feel VERY uncomfortable when they try to do it. You are in complete denial about this whole thing -- you think it's okay, yet you know it's not.

If there is a sign saying the right lane is ending and you choose to ignore that sign until the very end, you disobeyed a traffic sign. I mean, seriously, why do you think EVERYBODY else waits in line -- because it's fun? Because they're "stupid"? Because they're sheep? It's the right thing to do not to cut, and you know it!

Oh well, your life I guess..,...I'm just trying to talk some sense into you. Let the die fall as they may.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Min-Chi-Cbus

No, there IS something wrong with it. That's another clear case of cheating IMO and when people do it to me and I know they know better I make them feel VERY uncomfortable when they try to do it. You are in complete denial about this whole thing -- you think it's okay, yet you know it's not.

If there is a sign saying the right lane is ending and you choose to ignore that sign until the very end, you disobeyed a traffic sign. I mean, seriously, why do you think EVERYBODY else waits in line -- because it's fun? Because they're "stupid"? Because they're sheep? It's the right thing to do not to cut, and you know it!

Oh well, your life I guess..,...I'm just trying to talk some sense into you. Let the die fall as they may.

I think you need to review the following link:

Zipper Merge - Minnesota Department of Transportation

[Thegonagle]

On 394, you should get in line. That is not a "zipper merge" situation. The lane does not end, it goes to a different freeway. To cut in right before the double line is rude, and to cut in over the double line is illegal.

On 62, where a lane actually ends and it tends to back up, they want you to use the zipper technique. Drivers do whatever they do, but MN-DOT considers it underutilized infrastructure, and would rather see drivers use it than not.

[theweekend]

I would also call the 94 W lane on 394 E "underutilized infrastructure." Be honest with yourself...there's no difference between the two situations. Using both lanes would speed up traffic, plain and simple. Do it.

[Min-Chi-Cbus]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I think you need to review the following link:

Zipper Merge - Minnesota Department of Transportation

I think YOU need to re-read that link. The FIRST thing it says is: "If a lane is closing due to construction". This situation is not a construction closure.

[Thegonagle]

Originally Posted by theweekend

I would also call the 94 W lane on 394 E "underutilized infrastructure." Be honest with yourself...there's no difference between the two situations.

The lane to 94 west is certainly not under-utilized by the many people driving to 94 west.

When I want to go west, it's annoying (to say the least) when I have to slam on my brakes behind some eastbound cutter that nobody will let in.

You should be more honest with yourself: There is a very clear difference.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Thegonagle

On 62, where a lane actually ends and it tends to back up, they want you to use the zipper technique. Drivers do whatever they do, but MN-DOT considers it underutilized infrastructure, and would rather see drivers use it than not.

Thank you. Finally somebody who knows what they're talking about.

[theweekend]

Hope some of you are listening to KFAN. Common Man has a state trooper as a guest and asked him about merging in this exact 394/94 spot. He said there is absolutely nothing wrong with using the center lane, and then sliding over to the right lane at the last minute to get on 94-E.

[theweekend]

Originally Posted by Thegonagle

On 394, you should get in line. That is not a "zipper merge" situation. The lane does not end, it goes to a different freeway. To cut in right before the double line is rude, and to cut in over the double line is illegal.

On 62, where a lane actually ends and it tends to back up, they want you to use the zipper technique. Drivers do whatever they do, but MN-DOT considers it underutilized infrastructure, and would rather see drivers use it than not.

Yes, it is basically a zipper merge situation if you want it to be. And it's the best way to do it. If everyone did it, there wouldn't even be a traffic problem.

[kurls]

Originally Posted by Min-Chi-Cbus

No, there IS something wrong with it. That's another clear case of cheating IMO and when people do it to me and I know they know better I make them feel VERY uncomfortable when they try to do it. You are in complete denial about this whole thing -- you think it's okay, yet you know it's not.

If there is a sign saying the right lane is ending and you choose to ignore that sign until the very end, you disobeyed a traffic sign. I mean, seriously, why do you think EVERYBODY else waits in line -- because it's fun? Because they're "stupid"? Because they're sheep? It's the right thing to do not to cut, and you know it!

Oh well, your life I guess..,...I'm just trying to talk some sense into you. Let the die fall as they may.

What are you talking about dude? The correct way to merge is to zipper merge. It is completely idiotic to sit in a line when there is a another lane. That is the whole point of that lane it was not built to just sit on the sideline.

You are not disobeying a traffic sign in this example the sign is merely informative so you are aware you will need to merge as soon as possible.