Do you guys like the new flag? (Magnolia, West: how much, income)

[Champ le monstre du lac]

From strictly a visual standpoint and nothing else, I think the flag is lovely and very nice to look at. Regardless of any historical point, it's a beautiful flag and already one of the best state flags. It would look inviting on the landscape.

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

Why would they stop that? They have them all the time.

Good, just checking.

[Desert kid]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

I totally recognize that toppling statues and changing flags and such can be a slippery slope, I know all about Venezuelan history for instance, but I do not think we should have Confederate symbols prominently displayed. They absolutely belong in museums, so that history is not forgotten. I also know that many want to totally erase history, and THAT is certainly dangerous. Those people are fueled by unbridled hate, and nothing can dissuade them.

You don't think museums won't be targeted?

The United Daughters of the Confederacy headquarters in Richmond, Virginia was targeted by rioters in May/June 2020. Now, in that museum were several flags used by Stonewall Jackson, a few different regimental flags used by the Stonewall Brigade, and Jackson's burial flag. As well as a very large, untranscribed genealogy library.

Rioters threw molotovs into the building, destroying the flag of the 31st Virginia Infantry, Stonewall Jackson's casket flag, and the entire genealogy library.

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by Desert kid

You don't think museums won't be targeted?

The United Daughters of the Confederacy headquarters in Richmond, Virginia was targeted by rioters in May/June 2020. Now, in that museum were several flags used by Stonewall Jackson, a few different regimental flags used by the Stonewall Brigade, and Jackson's burial flag. As well as a very large, untranscribed genealogy library.

Rioters threw molotovs into the building, destroying the flag of the 31st Virginia Infantry, Stonewall Jackson's casket flag, and the entire genealogy library.

Sure they will, but they will not have the backing of the local municipal governments, most times. Rioters are criminals and there's not a whole lot anyone can do about a rioter's willingness to commit a crime. They need to be arrested, prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

I understand I'm speaking in ideals, and the reality likely will play out in a different manner. We have to squash rioters, that's part of law and order. I mean we don't allow assault and vandalism in our day to day life, you can't give them a pass and call it a protest.

[Desert kid]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

Sure they will, but they will not have the backing of the local municipal governments, most times. Rioters are criminals and there's not a whole lot anyone can do about a rioter's willingness to commit a crime. They need to be arrested, prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

I understand I'm speaking in ideals, and the reality likely will play out in a different manner. We have to squash rioters, that's part of law and order. I mean we don't allow assault and vandalism in our day to day life, you can't give them a pass and call it a protest.

That's the kicker here.

Nobody has been or ever was arrested for that. Look at Richmond, VA today. The disgusting urban blight on what was once Monument Avenue is called "progress".

In case nobody has noticed, municipal governments, namely places like Richmond and Minneapolis are backing up the rioters. Anarcho-Tyranny has metastasized in this country.

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by Desert kid

That's the kicker here.

Nobody has been or ever was arrested for that. Look at Richmond, VA today. The disgusting urban blight on what was once Monument Avenue is called "progress".

In case nobody has noticed, municipal governments, namely places like Richmond and Minneapolis are backing up the rioters. Anarcho-Tyranny has metastasized in this country.

I agree with you on all points.

My point is that there are people that get away with all sorts of crimes. I don't like it, and I want them all punished, but the reality is that it happens. People will continue to commit crimes (well, unless we get MUCH stronger with police presence and punishment, which is another conversation for another day).

[donziejo]

Yes, I like it.

[ColdAilment]

Originally Posted by Dd714

I think we had a recent thread on it. We had to vote it in but I think the general consensus was "who cares". I mean it's not bad but just get the topic over with, more important things to think about.
I think more out of state people worry about the flag then in-state.

I would be willing to bet most African American Mississippians, say over 90%, did not like the previous flag. Are you able to view the flag through the lense of an African American and see how they may feel about it?

[Dd714]

Originally Posted by ColdAilment

I would be willing to bet most African American Mississippians, say over 90%, did not like the previous flag. Are you able to view the flag through the lense of an African American and see how they may feel about it?

Well one thing is for sure, you proved my point about "out of state people".
How's Indiana?

[ColdAilment]

Originally Posted by Dd714

Well one thing is for sure, you proved my point about "out of state people".
How's Indiana?

I lived in Mississppi for over 4 years. I know the state, and it doesn't have much to brag about.