02-05-2014, 08:58 AM
Location: Spots Wyoming
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When I was in High School, I used to go, after school, and bring out 3 cords of pine cut in 8 foot lengths. The next night I would cut it up, and split it, by hand. Didn't have log splitters back then. I had an ad in the Penny Saver in Rapid City. Firewood for sale. Pine. $15 a cord, cut, split, and stacked at your location.
Even with that, I would have people calling me up, argueing about the price, wanting to get it for $10 a cord, and telling me that I was outrageous with my pricing.
It is -14 outside. We got some snow yesterday, so I thought I would plow it this morning. Went out to the 4 wheeler and went to fire it up. That's when I found it had a talking computer. When I hit the starter button, it said, "**** you, we ain't going nowhere."
Timber and I come in to warm up. When I go back out there, I will be armed with a can of starting fluid, because, we ARE going to plow this morning. Can't be waiting til noon to do it, that would interrupt my afternoon nap.
Rez, I have a neighbor with a Dodge, Cummins. He plugs in his truck if the temp gets around 20 degrees, or it will never start. A couple years ago, it was -38. He had his shop battery charger (the big one, on wheels), tied to that Dodge. I fired up the Ford, went into town and did a little shopping, and came home. He was still trying to get that Dodge running. I know that my truck is an exception and I don't know why, but ever since it was brand new, it has always started just fine for me. Because it is diesel, I use Power Service during the winter. I also change out my fuel filter 1 November, 1 January, and 1 March, like clockwork. I also carry a spare fuel filter behind the seat.
02-05-2014, 09:06 AM
Location: Spots Wyoming
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By the way. I have a neighbor who broke her femur in her right leg. She's laid up and can't get around at all. So I've been helping out. It snows, I go sweep her porch and steps. I've baked bread a couple times and taken her over a nice hot loaf of bread. I've made stew and taken her a big container. The other night I fried up some Elk Chislic and took some over.
Last night she called me and wanted to know if I could come over and plug in her Yukon. I asked her why, was she going some where today? She said, "No, I don't have to go anywhere, but the dealer told me that when it looks like the temp is going to get below zero, I need to plug it in." I then asked her if she had antifreeze in it. Yup, she just had the system flushed and filled, 50/50, back in October.
I had to explain to her that plugging it in, will warm up the block so that the oil is warm, and it will make it turn over easier. If she's not going anywhere, there is no reason to plug it in. She said, "Oh, I thought that is what kept it from freezing up and busting the block." I asked her about all the other vehicles, parked at work, or where ever, what was keeping them from busting the block, they can't plug their vehicle in. She said, "I don't know." So I had to explain to her that that is what antifreeze is for.
She's 44 years old, has a CDL and drives professionally.
She was born and raised in Northern Minnisota, so winters are nothing new.
02-05-2014, 09:17 AM
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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I guess $110 delivered for a months + heat isn't too bad though....
Where are you getting it for that? I might need some!
02-05-2014, 09:31 AM
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Where are you getting it for that? I might need some!
It all depends on where you are, and what's available.
A few years back, I was doing a Government contract and I was living in my RV, in Thononosassa Florida. Just outside Tampa. I bought an outside fireplace so we could sit around it in the evening, and drink a beer. More to keep the skeeters away than to provide heat.
I got in the paper and found a tree trimmer that had mature, cured oak for sale. I called him up and asked him how much for a cord? He said he didn't sell by the cord, he sold by the load. So I asked him how much is a load and what is the cost? He said he drives a 3/4 pickup and pulls a pickup bed trailer. He throws the oak in to both, doesn't stack it, and loads it til it starts falling off. So I said, "Great, how much?" He said, "Do you want some lighter too?" I asked him to explain. He said if I wanted lighter (pitch pine for starter) he would load the trailer, from the wheel wells back, with lighter. I said, "Yeah, a load with lighter." He said, "Well, I normally get $55 for a load of oak, but if you want lighter, I'll have to have $65." I gave him my address and said I'd have cash waiting for him. When he showed up, it was raining, hard. He came to the door and asked where I wanted it stacked. I said, "It's raining, don't worry about stacking it, just dump the trailers and go." He said, "No sir, that's not how I operate, the price includes me stacking it where you want it." So I grabbed my coat and went out to the trailer and started pitching wood into a pile behind the trailer and I told him, "I want it right there, in a pile." He smiled and helped pitch the wood out. It was good oak. He was a tree trimmer, so a lot of it was knots and forks, and such. Great firewood. You could light the lighters with a match, didn't need any paper or shavings.
It would be nice to go down and get a couple semi loads of that oak. That was in 2004, so it wasn't that long ago.
02-05-2014, 10:27 AM
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Where are you getting it for that? I might need some!
Guy named Garrett, he advertises in the Helena IR. I can PM his info if you want. Not sure if that price is good for a delivery to 3 Forks thought,
It's lodgepole pine and pretty good stuff.
There is another guy up here that delivers full length logs, he was charging $70 delivered earlier this year.
I don't mind bucking and splitting, but if it's already bucked into blocks and delivered, I have no problem with that
02-05-2014, 10:49 AM
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Cancelled trip to Billings. Forget it.
02-05-2014, 11:23 AM
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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It all depends on where you are, and what's available.
And if you're cheap
I like any firewood that's free!
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It would be nice to go down and get a couple semi loads of that oak. That was in 2004, so it wasn't that long ago.
That was a helluva deal!
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MTSilvertip
Guy named Garrett, he advertises in the Helena IR. I can PM his info if you want. Not sure if that price is good for a delivery to 3 Forks thought,
It's lodgepole pine and pretty good stuff.
Yeah, it's the delivery that'll kill ya nowadays. Tho if I found it cheap enough, I could always fetch it with the horse trailer, that'd be a worthwhile load. 4-horse stock trailer -- I can haul 8000 pounds in it, about how many cords would that be?
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There is another guy up here that delivers full length logs, he was charging $70 delivered earlier this year.
Per log? That's a lot of cuttin'!!
I can get mill scrap (bark sides, random thickness) at $25 for about half a cord if I go fetch it from Boulder or Livingston... starts real easy, but lot of pitch and ash, and then I gotta cut it up too.
Which means first I gotta take the ol' chainsaw to the shop, cuz it needs to be rebuilt again (all the rubber parts have gone brittle).
Little 14" McCullough that's real light and easy to use, but not much horsepower. Been wondering about getting an electric chainsaw for usin' at home -- any thoughts??
02-05-2014, 12:45 PM
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Yeah, it's the delivery that'll kill ya nowadays. Tho if I found it cheap enough, I could always fetch it with the horse trailer, that'd be a worthwhile load. 4-horse stock trailer -- I can haul 8000 pounds in it, about how many cords would that be?
Cord of wood is supposed to be a ton, 2000 lbs, but it depends on the wood as it can vary widely in weight.
Per log? That's a lot of cuttin'!!
No, per cord, and he gives good value for the money too.
I can get mill scrap (bark sides, random thickness) at $25 for about half a cord if I go fetch it from Boulder or Livingston... starts real easy, but lot of pitch and ash, and then I gotta cut it up too.
Which means first I gotta take the ol' chainsaw to the shop, cuz it needs to be rebuilt again (all the rubber parts have gone brittle).
Little 14" McCullough that's real light and easy to use, but not much horsepower. Been wondering about getting an electric chainsaw for usin' at home -- any thoughts??
When king brian the lesser sent out that $400 check a few years ago instead of cutting taxes, I invested mine in a new Stihl
The gift that keeps on giving, especially if you cut as much wood as I do it makes the job a lot less work.
02-05-2014, 01:08 PM
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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When king brian the lesser sent out that $400 check a few years ago instead of cutting taxes, I invested mine in a new Stihl
The gift that keeps on giving, especially if you cut as much wood as I do it makes the job a lot less work.
Heh.... they make a good one, but too much weight for the "9-stone weakling with knobbly knees" to swing around for a couple hours. That's another reason I was wonderin' about the electric chainsaws, if they're any good -- they're light.
I used to cut that much wood meself... gonna be again, methinks.
02-05-2014, 04:57 PM
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Heh.... they make a good one, but too much weight for the "9-stone weakling with knobbly knees" to swing around for a couple hours. That's another reason I was wonderin' about the electric chainsaws, if they're any good -- they're light.
I used to cut that much wood meself... gonna be again, methinks.
Have you got access to a Bobcat? This would be a must if your primary heat was wood.
See this mean Bobcat split firewood in seconds - YouTube
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Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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