04-26-2015, 09:10 AM
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Kings Lake is good as are all the developments off Davis-Countryside, Foxfire etc.
04-26-2015, 10:53 AM
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We are planning on moving to Naples with our three children. We are upbeat, positive, non-whiners.
With lots of family in the area, we are more than familiar with the general trade-offs and I would trade a pine tree for a palm tree any day.
Having said that, my major worry is just to find a neighborhood that is open to children and family friendly. I am researching my socks off to find the perfect neighborhood for us. I understand that not all neighborhoods are teeming with kids (there aren't many like that here either!) but I also don't want to disrupt a community of retirees with my three active boys...nor do I want my boys to feel like they can't ride bikes and be boys.
We've toured Riverstone, Raffia Preserve and get the general feel of Marbella Isles. We've also toured Saturnia and have friends living in Laurel Lakes. In our quest for a *little* bit more room between us and our neighbors we're now looking at the Vineyards, Wilshire Lakes & Monterey. Our budget can go up to about 850k max.
Riverstone was beautiful, but I just can't get past how close we would be to our neighbors. I would love to leave our sliders open in the cooler months from time to time to feel the breeze, but would feel weird knowing our neighbors could hear every word. Plus, as a mom raising three small active children, we aren't necessarily a quiet family.
Any suggestions on areas that we haven't considered? Or any that I listed that you think we should remove from our list? Does anyone know which neighborhoods/streets in the Vineyards are more geared towards families? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
04-26-2015, 02:07 PM
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I am in a forced early retirement so that has definitely had an impact on our budget. Husband is working at this time.
04-26-2015, 02:36 PM
Location: Lakewood NJ/Murrells Inlet SC/ N. Naples FL/Swainton NJ
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I am in a forced early retirement so that has definitely had an impact on our budget. Husband is working at this time.
West of 41 for $150K?? Sign me up!
Seriously you will need to look East of 41, perhaps even East of 75, for something nice for less than $200K.......
04-26-2015, 03:28 PM
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I am in a forced early retirement so that has definitely had an impact on our budget. Husband is working at this time.
Tmozer is right west of 41 will be impossible.
150K is probably doable but will likely be tight even for a condo.
Will your husband be retired? If not, what field? Will he need a job? Kids with you?
I lived in the Glades and Winterpark years ago as a renter. I liked both those places but I was young and single...Glades has a golf course; Winterpark does not. I have no idea about HOA fees.
If you post more information about your situation we can give better advice.
04-26-2015, 03:33 PM
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We are planning on moving to Naples with our three children. We are upbeat, positive, non-whiners.
With lots of family in the area, we are more than familiar with the general trade-offs and I would trade a pine tree for a palm tree any day.
Having said that, my major worry is just to find a neighborhood that is open to children and family friendly. I am researching my socks off to find the perfect neighborhood for us. I understand that not all neighborhoods are teeming with kids (there aren't many like that here either!) but I also don't want to disrupt a community of retirees with my three active boys...nor do I want my boys to feel like they can't ride bikes and be boys.
We've toured Riverstone, Raffia Preserve and get the general feel of Marbella Isles. We've also toured Saturnia and have friends living in Laurel Lakes. In our quest for a *little* bit more room between us and our neighbors we're now looking at the Vineyards, Wilshire Lakes & Monterey. Our budget can go up to about 850k max.
Riverstone was beautiful, but I just can't get past how close we would be to our neighbors. I would love to leave our sliders open in the cooler months from time to time to feel the breeze, but would feel weird knowing our neighbors could hear every word. Plus, as a mom raising three small active children, we aren't necessarily a quiet family.
Any suggestions on areas that we haven't considered? Or any that I listed that you think we should remove from our list? Does anyone know which neighborhoods/streets in the Vineyards are more geared towards families? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Family in the area? Where? What do they think?
I am always at a loss when people post here looking for family friendly since that can be challenging with most areas here.
Golden Gate City and Golden Gate Estates are definitely family friendly. If you want space look at GG Estates.
That budget gives you a lot of options. Have you looked in Imperial? The place is huge with a variety of housing options. I have a coworker that lives there and says it is definitely family friendly.
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04-26-2015, 03:45 PM
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I am in a forced early retirement so that has definitely had an impact on our budget. Husband is working at this time.
We started looking in Naples but ended up buying in Venice. I too loved Naples, but the traffic and sprawl was a bit too much, plus everything was pretty expensive. We took a vacation to Venice and everything I liked about Naples I found in Venice at a much lower price. It too has a quaint downtown. Beaches are free and there are plenty of them. You get a lot more housing for your buck.
04-26-2015, 06:52 PM
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Thanks to everyone that has responded so far. Were we pretty naive to think that was a doable budget for Naples?
04-26-2015, 07:06 PM
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Thanks to everyone that has responded so far. Were we pretty naive to think that was a doable budget for Naples?
Naive? A little. A lot will now depend on what your retirement income will be. If you can give a range that would be helpful and could make or break it. Paying cash for that condo?
That budget is still doable in a safe area but you won't be at the lifestyle most outsiders think about when they mention Naples.
I'm trying to be optimistic here but you are having doubts and already have a fringe housing budget....
Read my thread about Naples here. It is older but mostly still valid. A lot of people found it helpful.
//www.city-data.com/forum/naple...l#post14807112
04-26-2015, 07:20 PM
Location: Lakewood NJ/Murrells Inlet SC/ N. Naples FL/Swainton NJ
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We paid less than $150 for our lake front two BR/Bath condo in the Lakeside community in North Naples (Airport and Vanderbilt) about 5 years ago. While East of 41, still only 4 miles from Vanderbilt beach. Prices have risen a little, but I have seen unit sell recently for $150 or less. Very nice, well kept gated community. We are retired also.......
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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With lots of family in the area, we are more than familiar with the general trade-offs and I would trade a pine tree for a palm tree any day. 
