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I tend to agree with you....but there is this tensy part of me, that would like to believe they are real....but unfortunately in my own mind, I believe a lot of these sightings are bears...bears can and do walk upright, not a lot of them but some have, hence we remember that one in NJ that neighbors grew very fond of, until some one shot him.
I'm of the older generation, and can never remember to use my phone to take a picture until after the fact, it hasn't been ingrained in me to do so, until someone reminds me to....
But there is one more point, I saw with my own eyes (as you know) while living in the Poconos, a black panther...now I don't know where it came from and I'm more inclined to believe it was someone's pet....but I saw it with my own eyes, and more and more people are seeing them....up in that area and further west in PA...so? And back then, cells were not popular....
So? Who knows?
And one more point....I read the book, "Close to Shore" and during that time, people didn't really know about sharks or fear them....let alone, believe they swam up in fresh water. Way back when I was a kid...I was fishing the Delaware, down below New Hope and ran into an older gentleman who proceeded to tell me there were shark in the River. I must have looked at him like he was crazy, but he said, he had seen them...all these years later, scientists fine out that there are 2 or 3 (I forget) types of shark that can adapt to fresh water? And they do, so rather than try to disprove it in my own mind, I believe anything is possible, b/c there are people who like me, with the black panther you couldn't prove otherwise, b/c they saw it with their own eyes....
I will tell you this, I am SO glad that there are others who have seen a black panther! LOL
Good to see you my friend, hope your all doing well.....in that neck of the woods.
As I told you before my late wife and I saw a mountain lion in PA. We chased it down a dirt road in a pickup truck in the middle of the day on a dirt road. I reported it when I got back home but our Game Commission did not come out to investigate. So in the minds of our authorities we still have no mountain lions in PA.
Fortunately for us a woman hit and killed one in Connecticut just two years later. The DNA tracked it back to South Dakota. So we feel that it could have been the same large cat we saw two years earlier. Of course we cannot prove that. But at least there is physical evidence that one made it to Connecticut.
See the problem with Big Foot and Dogman are there are no bodies, scat or hair samples. None have ever been examined by our specialist. We have no DNA and we do not even have clear pictures of videos of any of them. Maybe you are not inclined to take pictures; but our newer generations love to take pictures of everything and immediately post them on the internet. They were trained to click and post; so where are the pictures? Of course then we have the game cameras and drones and security cameras. Even some of our vehicles are equipped with cameras that record everything.
When it comes to animals crossing our roads; 100,000's of thousands of deer have been hit and many killed crossing. Crows utilize our roads so they can feast on our leftovers. They are probably the smartest of all the animals and birds around our road. However I have killed two crows when I came around a blind curve when I was much younger. Almost 6,000 humans were hit and killed by vehicles last year. So are Big Foot smarter than humans? After all of these years one would think that at least one would have been killed by a vehicle.
There are quite a few stories in the historical past of explorers coming across these things, they wrote down what kinds of creatures they saw (they described something that sounds like a sasquatch), Lief Erickson is one that saw them.
Not to mention the Native American tribes, they referred to them as a separate tribe.
I don't believe in discrediting people for their beliefs.....I remember seeing something that most do not see in the woods, so....since then, I found it's wise to just accept what people see and not to argue with them or try and discredit them for their beliefs....
fisheye As I told you before my late wife and I saw a mountain lion in PA. We chased it down a dirt road in a pickup truck in the middle of the day on a dirt road. I reported it when I got back home but our Game Commission did not come out to investigate. So in the minds of our authorities we still have no mountain lions in PA.
yes, I certainly do remember you telling me that, thanks for reminding me.
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Fortunately for us a woman hit and killed one in Connecticut just two years later. The DNA tracked it back to South Dakota. So we feel that it could have been the same large cat we saw two years earlier. Of course we cannot prove that. But at least there is physical evidence that one made it to Connecticut.
not sure if I remember that part but glad they could track it....do you think it could have been a pet at one time? I remember years ago, when I lived up there, and maybe I told you this before, but there was a pet store and the owner of the store had a cougar penned up in that store. He was much older than myself....but remember feeling both sorry for the poor cat, and astonished at how big they are.
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See the problem with Big Foot and Dogman are there are no bodies, scat or hair samples. None have ever been examined by our specialist. We have no DNA and we do not even have clear pictures of videos of any of them. Maybe you are not inclined to take pictures; but our newer generations love to take pictures of everything and immediately post them on the internet. They were trained to click and post; so where are the pictures? Of course then we have the game cameras and drones and security cameras. Even some of our vehicles are equipped with cameras that record everything.
yes, you are absolutely right, I was just saying b/c I think it's pretty funny that always after the fact I think to use the camera on my phone. But yes indeed, you are correct in what you have said....and again, I think many times bear are mistaken for Bigfoot.
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When it comes to animals crossing our roads; 100,000's of thousands of deer have been hit and many killed crossing. Crows utilize our roads so they can feast on our leftovers. They are probably the smartest of all the animals and birds around our road. However I have killed two crows when I came around a blind curve when I was much younger. Almost 6,000 humans were hit and killed by vehicles last year. So are Big Foot smarter than humans? After all of these years one would think that at least one would have been killed by a vehicle.
I know crows are very smart....there are not many that allow themselves to be hit, but as you say, you were coming around a bend, so they didn't have time to process it....I'm surprised you killed two of them....in all my life, have always marveled at how they know cars are coming and move? I find that amazing.
not sure if I remember that part but glad they could track it....do you think it could have been a pet at one time? I remember years ago, when I lived up there, and maybe I told you this before, but there was a pet store and the owner of the store had a cougar penned up in that store. He was much older than myself....but remember feeling both sorry for the poor cat, and astonished at how big they are.
It happened two years after we spotted the one here in PA. So it could have been the same lion? Of course we could never prove that since I could not get anybody to come out and investigate our claim. There was another article that claimed it made its way from South Dakota to Connecticut by taking a northern route through Canada: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...76Q5ZE20110727. Of course that still does not mean that the lion went directly to Connecticut? From the contents of the stomach of the lion it was evident that it was not a pet and indeed a wild mountain lion.
Cats are fairly careful about crossing our roads; but some do get hit from time to time. That is this nagging problem I have with any Big Foot population in the US. As a truck driver I spent 100,000 miles a year on our roads - I am glad that I retired from driving! I have seen many road kills and, in some cases, I left a few behind. Many people have reported sightings close to our roads or crossing our roads. Sooner or later all animals, birds, reptiles and insects make a mistake judging our speed and direction. They end up under our tires. All we are left with are stories, sounds, and very poor pictures and none of that makes for compelling evidence.
Ok, I have a confession. I have seen it. Wife and I went to grocery store two days ago to attempt to refill the pantry. Sadly, no real luck due to Covid19. However, driving home on our very rural county road.....I saw a large animal standing in the road. Not wanting to damage my vehicle by colliding with the creature, I pulled to the side of the road. Just at that moment, my wife reminded me she was very hungry and that we're empty handed from our grocery run. I did the only thing a good husband could do.....I pulled my trusty Browning 30.06 from its case and put 5 rounds into the beast.
Imagine my surprise when I began to investigate the kill. It was Bigfoot. All 8 feet of him. Big, hairy, ugly and stinky. Faced now with a hard choice.....show the world my incredible find or feed my starving wife and family.....I had to choose my kin. So, the world will still not have the proof it wants on this cryptid but, rest assured we are eating well. Tastes a little like opossum.
There is a place in NE TN that is a black bear hibernation area. Bear come from all over to slumber, in fairly large numbers. What is interesting is even in the hunting season, few hunters encounter the bears, which are in very high concentration. My buddy is a park service worker in the area. He talks to a lot of hunters and always asks them the same question, have they ever come across the remains of a bear, the answer is always the same: no.
While I am not saying there is a bigfoot what I am saying is if there was, I am not sure you would come across the remains, especially as there may be deliberate burial or concealment involved in conjunction with a low population creature.
As I understand it, unless you shoot one, they don't find the rotting bodies of any of the great apes in nature.
There is a place in NE TN that is a black bear hibernation area. Bear come from all over to slumber, in fairly large numbers. What is interesting is even in the hunting season, few hunters encounter the bears, which are in very high concentration. My buddy is a park service worker in the area. He talks to a lot of hunters and always asks them the same question, have they ever come across the remains of a bear, the answer is always the same: no.
While I am not saying there is a bigfoot what I am saying is if there was, I am not sure you would come across the remains, especially as there may be deliberate burial or concealment involved in conjunction with a low population creature.
As I understand it, unless you shoot one, they don't find the rotting bodies of any of the great apes in nature.
As I told you before my late wife and I saw a mountain lion in PA. We chased it down a dirt road in a pickup truck in the middle of the day on a dirt road. I reported it when I got back home but our Game Commission did not come out to investigate. So in the minds of our authorities we still have no mountain lions in PA.
Fortunately for us a woman hit and killed one in Connecticut just two years later. The DNA tracked it back to South Dakota. So we feel that it could have been the same large cat we saw two years earlier. Of course we cannot prove that. But at least there is physical evidence that one made it to Connecticut. ...
Had one on Cape Cod for a while. Around twenty-five or so years ago. The story:
I served as chief of police for a town on the outer Cape (the arm of the Cape that ends in Provincetown). I was told by three of my town's citizens that they had seen a mountain lion. With the exception of the last person reporting the sightings (which I will explain in a moment) the first two people started with; "Chief, you're not gonna believe this!"
First person-CPA, woman, known her for several years. While driving along Cape Cod bay, in the National Seashore the cat ran across the road she was driving on.
Second person-Town gas inspector. Also my plumber. Saw the big cat twice. Once for a short period of time, once for around fifteen minutes. The man was out hunting (in the same general area as the woman who first reported the cat) and saw, through binoculars, the animal in a tree, relaxing, with a deer kill at the base of the tree.
Third person (and the one I'm least likely to believe...)-My wife. A member of the town's Fire Dept, which was also the town's rescue squad. She went on an ambulance call in the early morning hours. When she came back home she woke me up to tell me she saw a mountain lion drinking from a bird bath on the road leading to our home.
I contacted the Natural History Museum on the Cape. Nobody cared. Go figure.
If people are 'making up' these sightings...why do not hear of 1000s of Vampire sightings, or sightings of elves, trolls, unicorns even?!!
If people were going to FAKE a bigfoot or dogman sighting, it surely would not be beneath them to fake seeing something else too...right? But this is not happening...I think that is interesting in itself.
Ive debated this point with another member on the unexplained board, the total number of sightings add to the credibility imo, especially when they are coming from all over the world for that matter.
I totally get what your saying, I do, but why hasn't anyone found any remains or more solid proof? Hair, footprints....scat, bones....?
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