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Please reread my original post. I was talking about a vaccine which *does not prevent infectious disease* as in, this vaccine does nothing to prevent the passing of a disease from one person to the next. Not getting this vaccine poses NO risk to surrounding population whatsoever.
Your original post says this too:
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Originally Posted by lisa g
How disgusting to learn that there are mandatory immunizations in NH and no 'consciencious objector' type of exclusion, as in some other states.
and this:
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Originally Posted by lisa g
Is anyone in NH gov't. reading the damn license plates? What is the typical NH mindset, to roll over and go along with it? Parents should NOT be trumped by the state when it comes to what is injected into their children's bodies.
Your post includes the non-infectious example, but does not exclude the other incredibly infectious diseases from the two criticisms above. I believe that is the part to which I and others reacted.
For decades, I mean really, decades, we all got immunized for Small pox. [everyone from the 60 something to the 30 somethings should still have the vaccine mark in the shoulder.]
Then the [ehemmm] Govt.s state that the virus is all but gone in the free world, so they stop the vaccine.
Now, looming on the horizon, the threat of global terrorism, and what's the viril strain the thoughtful terrorist folk are trying to introduce: Small pox
Not going along the lines of "drink the kool-aid cause we told you to", but I think perhaps the US should be pro-active, and protect it's populace, and perhaps re-institute the vaccine. Will it work? I don't know....Did it, will it actually protect the Generations Vaccinated?
My daughter was offered a chicken pox immunization when she was younger. not required, but recommended. I opted no. The Dr's response was, "well then, just bring her close to someone you know with the pox, and let her catch it".....!!!
Meningitis ran wild for a spell in the NYC area...
Now the Cervical Cancer shot. According to the medical community, it works. as a parent, you always want the best, and to protect your child....but how many times, how many immunizations, drugs, ect...
The world has developed many, many ways to infect, sicken and kill us. We have developed a few ways to stop the infectious materials. I suggest we use them.
I agree with you 100% Greg! My son is fully vaccinated and will get boosters as needed and recommended by his pediatrician. I would not want to take any chances with his health...I had a great Aunt with polio, she never walked normally again after having it. I've had an extended family member die from chicken pox!!! My son IS vaccinated....
I usually stay away from the more controversial threads, but have to comment on this one. IMO, chicken pox is one of those things that you either want to have your kids catch naturally, or get the vaccine to protect them. Simply going through life and hoping that they never come across somebody who is infected is quite a gamble. Especially when you remember that the virus is most contagious up to 5 days BEFORE any spots appear! If a child doesn't catch them by mid-teens, I would opt for the vaccine. I know someone who back in their early twenties got dreadfully sick with chicken pox. The chicken pox developed into some funky sort of pneumonia, and they were in the hospital on anti-viral drugs, etc. Not fun! Turns out that's one of the complications that can arise from a 'later-life chicken pox case" (later life is early 20's??) Anyway, just my experience and thoughts...
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Originally Posted by NewNHguy
My daughter was offered a chicken pox immunization when she was younger. not required, but recommended. I opted no. The Dr's response was, "well then, just bring her close to someone you know with the pox, and let her catch it".....!!!
All 3 of my kids have had chicken pox, so I didn't have to make that call of 'vaccinate or not'...
thing about chickenpox is, that if you get it as an adult, it's usually much worse and can have terrible complications (one of which is sterility. make sure you have all the kids you want to have first!). As a child, it's not usually so bad, and it was common to try to get your young child to play around someone who has it in hopes they catch it and get it over with.
Chickenpox also doesn't so much 'go away' as 'go dormant' - in your nervous system. It can reapear later in life.. it's then called 'shingles' which are lesions on the nerves and can be very painful until it goes dormant again. No telling why it re-appears, sometimes it never does.
So, what about the H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine? I'm hearing reports that it maybe mandatory. I find this disturbing.
While I am definitely for vaccines like polio, chicken pox, etc., (because they've been tested and nobody is dying from them), I am more than a little concerned about being (possibly) forced to take a newly created, barely tested vaccine.
I have contacts in the VC world here in Cali, and I have been hearing about this vaccine for a while now. By the time it's ready to distribute, they will have barely had time to test it.
I am almost 5 months pregnant, and I just don't know about injecting my body and my baby with something this new.
And what are the consequences if I don't?
Scary ****, to say the least. News reports are saying the next wave (due in the fall) will be over by end of November. Maybe I'll lock myself inside come September.
Also many should research what is acually in vaccines ( aborted babies in the chicken pox vaccine ) just an example
Point in fact, while some vaccines are originally** developed from fetal tissue - no fetal tissue is used to mass produce the vaccine. There is a wonderfully stupid crowd on the web promoting this "vaccines are made from aborted babies" nonsense. They will have you believe that we're practically farming fetuses, chopping them up, and injecting them into people.
** 50yrs ago for most of the vaccines being discussed here
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