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But we're talking about NJ and what public educators and those employed by the public education system that is funded by NJ taxpayers property taxes make in a year PLUS their pensions, etc. Not Joe Jobby who works in a Free Economy where goods and services are bought and sold freely in an open and free market. NJ property taxpayers HAVE to fund, are FORCED to fund public education - including these salaries.
You mean re-distribution of wealth?
I'm not really sure what you mean here, but let me tell you why I whine. I don't send my kids to public school. Never have and never will. My choice...but I still get stuck with a huge portion of my property taxes going over to the public schools in the town and it only INCREASES every year. And what about Seniors or those who don't have children? Why should they be forced to contribute? It's not like every state in the union funds public schools through property taxes so it's not like it can't change and shouldn't.
So you think most people who don't make what an SI makes or protests ridiculous salaries for jobs that aren't necessary are uneducated and don't make more than $250K a year? What would make you think that?
Socialists don't tend to protest pay equality.
agreed.
In my case, not that I don't want to send my kids to public school, but the public school fails to provide a free appropriate public education, hence I am "forced" to look into private placement. ( I can have another thread to discuss this).
I also agreed your comment on the assumption that people are not making more than $250k a year. I am all for paying for performance, but I just do not see any contribution from the SI.
agreed.
In my case, not that I don't want to send my kids to public school, but the public school fails to provide a free appropriate public education, hence I am "forced" to look into private placement. ( I can have another thread to discuss this).
That's where I sit also.
Outside of the failure of the local public schools academically, in the town I live in we also have a high rate of, how do I say this and remain politically correct? Gang bangers and gang banger wanna-be's, a large low-income group in the district - who are only vocal and involved when there is some perceived "race" issue, parents of kids who will jump on a cops back when a school dance gets out of control because one of their kids slugged a cop, kids who bring guns to school (and it's always covered up by the school- just happen to know a few teachers at the HS).
I don't want my children anywhere near that. Not in the hallways, not in the bathrooms, not during lunch, not in school sports, not on a bus, not at a school dance, not anywhere.
And when some major bru-ha-ha happens? The town SI suggests that the town council hire an outside group to "look into the issue". To the tune of $20K. Apparently common sense costs $20K these day.
Outside of the failure of the local public schools academically, in the town I live in we also have a high rate of, how do I say this and remain politically correct? Gang bangers and gang banger wanna-be's, a large low-income group in the district - who are only vocal and involved when there is some perceived "race" issue, parents of kids who will jump on a cops back when a school dance gets out of control because one of their kids slugged a cop, kids who bring guns to school (and it's always covered up by the school- just happen to know a few teachers at the HS).
I don't want my children anywhere near that. Not in the hallways, not in the bathrooms, not during lunch, not in school sports, not on a bus, not at a school dance, not anywhere.
And when some major bru-ha-ha happens? The town SI suggests that the town council hire an outside group to "look into the issue". To the tune of $20K. Apparently common sense costs $20K these day.
How are the issues you mentioned the failure of the schools? How do you expect a school to function with the problems that stem from a terrible family life? As a teacher you can only teach someone who wants to learn. In your case you seemed to have moved into a "bad" town. Didnt you know the situations in the schools before you decided to settle down? Plenty of NJ towns have great family and kids which in turn lead to great schools. Of course we do have sections of NJ that are full of apathetic parents that dont place a very high regard on education.
This just isn't true. I am constantly saving lives for free, as are most of my peers. We dont turn away dying patients just because they dont have insurance or are on medicaid. First of all, it's illegal. Secondly, and more importantly, it is immoral.
This just isn't true. I am constantly saving lives for free, as are most of my peers. We dont turn away dying patients just because they dont have insurance or are on medicaid. First of all, it's illegal. Secondly, and more importantly, it is immoral.
Sure I know its about the patients. It has nothing to do with that great pay! If its not about the money move to some poor country and do it for free. Do it because you are such a great person.
How are the issues you mentioned the failure of the schools? How do you expect a school to function with the problems that stem from a terrible family life? As a teacher you can only teach someone who wants to learn. In your case you seemed to have moved into a "bad" town. Didnt you know the situations in the schools before you decided to settle down? Plenty of NJ towns have great family and kids which in turn lead to great schools. Of course we do have sections of NJ that are full of apathetic parents that dont place a very high regard on education.
Therefore, where is the value of the superintendent?
I can tell you my kid wants to learn, is highly motivated as her teacher last year told me, but a teacher who taught her for 2 years was just plain lazy.
As one of the parents in my sd stated, it was not the school that taught his kid, he did. BTW, I am in a very "good" district.
Sure I know its about the patients. It has nothing to do with that great pay! If its not about the money move to some poor country and do it for free. Do it because you are such a great person.
Why do working for the great pay and for the patients have to be mutually exclusinve?
Sure I know its about the patients. It has nothing to do with that great pay! If its not about the money move to some poor country and do it for free. Do it because you are such a great person.
You are changing the subject. You stated that we dont save lives for free, and I pointed out that you are wrong. We save lives for free on a daily basis.
Now on to your NEW point, why does it have to be all or nothing? What is someone to do who is intelligent and wants to BOTH serve humanity AND live a comfortable life? Does that make them a bad person? Does that mean they are ONLY about money? I mean, they could just go to Wall Street, blow off humanity and make a lot MORE money for themselves, but they dont. They choose to serve their fellow man. The skills and knowledge required are very difficult to attain, and that is why the job demands a premium.
Why do working for the great pay and for the patients have to be mutually exclusinve?
Thank you. I didn't read this before posting my last post.
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