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Old 05-29-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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Di Ionno: Death of Newark police officer tells tragic tale of irony in city's South Ward | NJ.com

Unless you move all the ghetto idiots out, nothing will change as you can destroy so much with a few bullets... students, creditors, redevelopers all know this.

Dump all the money on welfare and section 8 you want ... its not helping... and actually makes things worse as you let losers flourish. Take away all the handouts and these people will leave as they can't survive here living the way they do and will actually need to work hard to make it on their own or leave. Those that do work hard and are educated and disciplined will stay and flourish and raise strong families the idiots will die or move away.

The way the welfare system is setup, you have welfare idiots and drug dealers living next to hard working families in Newark.

Really if the mom had any decency how can she continue her plans for a wedding, after her son has been arrested and charged in connection with the death of a police officer? Low life garbage.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Di Ionno: Death of Newark police officer tells tragic tale of irony in city's South Ward | NJ.com

Unless you move all the ghetto idiots out, nothing will change as you can destroy so much with a few bullets... students, creditors, redevelopers all know this.

Dump all the money on welfare and section 8 you want ... its not helping... and actually makes things worse as you let losers flourish. Take away all the handouts and these people will leave as they can't survive here living the way they do and will actually need to work hard to make it on their own or leave. Those that do work hard and are educated and disciplined will stay and flourish and raise strong families the idiots will die or move away.

The way the welfare system is setup, you have welfare idiots and drug dealers living next to hard working families in Newark.

Really if the mom had any decency how can she continue her plans for a wedding, after her son has been arrested and charged in connection with the death of a police officer? Low life garbage.

Honestly I wish I had an answer. To think we blame cops,teachers and everybody else and yet nobody has the guts to call it like it is. Everyone is to blame other then the actual problems. I for one also agree that cities like these will never ever get better. A huge number of people in those cities are apathetic,ignorant, sad sack of human beings. I truely feel bad for those who are trying to do well yet are only squashed by these ignorant fools. I wish I had an answer to this problem but its just systemic and not sure we can ever change it.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Honestly I wish I had an answer. To think we blame cops,teachers and everybody else and yet nobody has the guts to call it like it is. Everyone is to blame other then the actual problems. I for one also agree that cities like these will never ever get better. A huge number of people in those cities are apathetic,ignorant, sad sack of human beings. I truely feel bad for those who are trying to do well yet are only squashed by these ignorant fools. I wish I had an answer to this problem but its just systemic and not sure we can ever change it.
2-step solution:

1) Eliminate handouts, entitlements, and welfare, along with the philosophy that creates them.
2) Wait.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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2-step solution:

1) Eliminate handouts, entitlements, and welfare, along with the philosophy that creates them.
2) Wait.

Honestly ok that will work. How many minutes have you spent in any type of city? I love people who say all will be fixed with stopping the handouts. What will be fixed is you. Not saying those people deserve them but I know I dont want them at my doorsteps. I was born and raised in Newark so I know just a little bit about that element.
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Old 05-29-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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I don't mean this to be racist or elitist, but people who can not care for children, should not have them. I don't mean financially either. There are many poor people or people of color that are excellent parents. There are severely disturbed and dysfunctional people that keep on having children and society has to keep on paying for them.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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2-step solution:

1) Eliminate handouts, entitlements, and welfare, along with the philosophy that creates them.
2) Wait.
So true there needs to be a mayor with enough balls to kill off the WELFARE!!!!!! and section 8 Or limit it to students only or limit the handouts to be temporary so struggling hard working ppl who are trying to do good have a safety net as they get on their own 2 feet. It should be limited to no longer than 4.5 years.
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I don't mean this to be racist or elitist, but people who can not care for children, should not have them. I don't mean financially either. There are many poor people or people of color that are excellent parents. There are severely disturbed and dysfunctional people that keep on having children and society has to keep on paying for them.
I totally understand your comment and where ur coming from you sir are not a racist!!! I am black and still understand the rule.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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Honestly ok that will work. How many minutes have you spent in any type of city? I love people who say all will be fixed with stopping the handouts. What will be fixed is you. Not saying those people deserve them but I know I dont want them at my doorsteps. I was born and raised in Newark so I know just a little bit about that element.
So you are saying pay up or face violent consequences? Sounds like robbery. You know what we do with robbers don't we?
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:02 PM
 
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2-step solution:

1) Eliminate handouts, entitlements, and welfare, along with the philosophy that creates them.
2) Wait.

110% agree! NJ doesn't have ONE successful city thanks to the democrats running the state with their liberal agenda.


Plus don't worry, Newark is about to get much worse:

1 dead in 3 shootings in Newark today; 3 killed yesterday | NJ.com

Newark has seen a recent spasm of violence. Three people were shot dead Saturday, dotting the North, Central and South wards. Thursday night, William Johnson, an off-duty Newark police officer, was killed in a drive-by shooting. One teenager has been arrested in Johnson's slaying. But all four of those incidents are still under investigation, according to the Essex County Prosecutor's office.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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So true there needs to be a mayor with enough balls to kill off the WELFARE!!!!!! and section 8 Or limit it to students only or limit the handouts to be temporary so struggling hard working ppl who are trying to do good have a safety net as they get on their own 2 feet. It should be limited to no longer than 4.5 years.

I totally understand your comment and where ur coming from you sir are not a racist!!! I am black and still understand the rule.
I disagree, it should be only 2 years MAX, thus people can go to a community college or trade school and get an education and then get ahead otherwise what is the point other than to give a free ride


Also my detective side is making me wonder if the police unions have anything to do with the spike in crime?
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1777


VIOLENT CRIME
05/29/11 13:30(NEWARK - 852.6000) UPDATE: SHOOTING CRIME SCENE SETUP, ALL VICS TRANSPORTED UMDNJ TRAUMA. POLICE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE. [NJY066]VIOLENT CRIME
05/29/11 13:28(NEWARK - 852.6000) UPDATE: 2 ADDITIONAL VICTIMS FOUND , POLICE DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR WHITE TRAILBLAZER AS POSS SUSPECT VEHICLE [NJY066]VIOLENT CRIME
05/29/11 13:06(NEWARK - 852.6000) SHOOTING: 1 MALE SHOT WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE WITH ALS/BLS ENROUTE. MAJOR CRIME NOTIFIED AS WELL AS ESU [NJY066]

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Old 05-29-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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I disagree, it should be only 2 years MAX, thus people can go to a community college or trade school and get an education and then get ahead otherwise what is the point other than to give a free ride


Also my detective side is making me wonder if the police unions have anything to do with the spike in crime?
Essex County, New Jersey (NJ) Live Police, Fire, and EMS Scanners on RadioReference.com


VIOLENT CRIME
05/29/11 13:30(NEWARK - 852.6000) UPDATE: SHOOTING CRIME SCENE SETUP, ALL VICS TRANSPORTED UMDNJ TRAUMA. POLICE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE. [NJY066]VIOLENT CRIME
05/29/11 13:28(NEWARK - 852.6000) UPDATE: 2 ADDITIONAL VICTIMS FOUND , POLICE DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR WHITE TRAILBLAZER AS POSS SUSPECT VEHICLE [NJY066]VIOLENT CRIME
05/29/11 13:06(NEWARK - 852.6000) SHOOTING: 1 MALE SHOT WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE WITH ALS/BLS ENROUTE. MAJOR CRIME NOTIFIED AS WELL AS ESU [NJY066]
OK you win ur plan is better I concede to ur idea. 2 years seems reasonable for oone to make enough investments to get on one's feet
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