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So you're saying that rich people who wouldn't send their kids to ANY public school, including Millburn, choose to live in M/SO because they can get a bigger, nicer house?
precisely.
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Originally Posted by Kthnry
However, the price difference isn't as great as you're making it out to be and is offset by the higher M/SO property taxes.
It is not offset as big houses in millburn cost millions and have higher property taxes than similar ones in M/SO.
Wow, defensive much? I never said that M/SO is "better." I said that it is "different."
Nope, I do not live in Milburn, but mostly because I cannot afford it.
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Originally Posted by Kthnry
I choose to live in M/SO because I want to live in a walkable, community-oriented town where my neighbors are liberal Democrats, social activists and volunteers, mixed-race couples, same-sex couples with adopted kids, artists, musicians, writers, actors and other people in theater and TV, aging hippies, not-rich people, and ... yes ... a significant African-American population, some wealthy and others poor and unprepared for school, which does present challenges for the school system. I value having my kids exposed to a range of humanity, and I think the experience will serve them well later in life.
If I ever decide to move to a lilly-white, homogenous, wealthy Republican town where everybody works on Wall Street and there are two fur shops downtown, Millburn will be on the top of my list, since I do love the pizza at La Strada.
Ok, so you made your decission based on race, people's beliefs, and sexual orientation. Nothing wrong with that (at least in your mind, because in your case/head you are "right")
and just so you know, Millburn is about 80% white, just about the same as a place called the United States. Granted that there are more Asians than African Americans, and I guess that can scare some people
also, the USA is 32% democrats, Millburn is 31%. USA is 29% republicans, and Millburn is 22%. Guess some people do not like that there are more indepentents in Millburn then most places.
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Nope, I do not live in Milburn, but mostly because I cannot afford it.
Ok, so you made your decission based on race, people's beliefs, and sexual orientation. Nothing wrong with that (at least in your mind, because in your case/head you are "right")
and just so you know, Millburn is about 80% white, just about the same as a place called the United States. Granted that there are more Asians than African Americans, and I guess that can scare some people
also, the USA is 32% democrats, Millburn is 31%. USA is 29% republicans, and Millburn is 22%. Guess some people do not like that there are more indepentents in Millburn then most places.
Hmmm, a Defender of Millburn who doesn't even live there. Why are you guys so threatened by Maplewood/South Orange that you have to establish your superiority at every turn?
Everyone decides where to live on the basis of logistics, economics, and demographics, which includes school quality among many other factors. There's nothing right or wrong about it.
If you review the results of the 2009 NJ governor's election linked below, you will see that there is a big divide between eastern and western Essex County, with Millburn solidly on the Republican side.
Hmmm, a Defender of Millburn who doesn't even live there. Why are you guys so threatened by Maplewood/South Orange that you have to establish your superiority at every turn?
Everyone decides where to live on the basis of logistics, economics, and demographics, which includes school quality among many other factors. There's nothing right or wrong about it.
If you review the results of the 2009 NJ governor's election linked below, you will see that there is a big divide between eastern and western Essex County, with Millburn solidly on the Republican side.
That is how you decided Millburn was a republican town? That is ridiculous. You obviously dont spend much time with people from Millburn or you would know it is not a republican town. It is very liberal. Not voting to reelect John Corzine isn't a sign that you are a republican. It is a sign you are intelligent.
That is how you decided Millburn was a republican town? That is ridiculous. You obviously dont spend much time with people from Millburn or you would know it is not a republican town. It is very liberal. Not voting to reelect John Corzine isn't a sign that you are a republican. It is a sign you are intelligent.
See below, from Wikipedia. It seems fair to say that Millburn is more Republican than M/SO, if that sits better with you. For such a liberal town, Millburn certainly turned out for George Bush in 2004. How'd that work out for you?
Maplewood:
In the 2008 presidential election, Democrat Barack Obama received 81.9% of the vote here (10,649 cast), ahead of Republican John McCain with 16.6% (2,156 votes) and other candidates with 0.7% (90 votes), among the 13,003 ballots cast by the township's 16,523 registered voters, for a turnout of 78.7%.[56]
In the 2004 presidential election, Democrat John Kerry received 76.3% of the vote here (9,113 ballots cast), outpolling Republican George W. Bush with 22.7% (2,709 votes) and other candidates with 0.6% (90 votes), among the 11,943 ballots cast by the township's 15,289 registered voters, for a turnout percentage of 78.1.[57]
South Orange:
In the 2008 presidential election, Democrat Barack Obama received 81.1% of the vote here (7,228 cast), ahead of Republican John McCain with 17.6% (1,569 votes) and other candidates with 0.6% (53 votes), among the 8,913 ballots cast by the township's 12,243 registered voters, for a turnout of 72.8%.[74]
In the 2004 presidential election, Democrat John Kerry received 77.3% of the vote here (6,641 ballots cast), outpolling Republican George W. Bush with 21.9% (1,883 votes) and other candidates with 0.4% (45 votes), among the 8,590 ballots cast by the township's 10,990 registered voters, for a turnout percentage of 78.2.[75]
Millburn:
In the 2008 presidential election, Democrat Barack Obama received 58.6% of the vote here (6,097 cast), ahead of Republican John McCain with 39.8% (4,144 votes) and other candidates with 0.7% (72 votes), among the 10,410 ballots cast by the township's 14,034 registered voters, for a turnout of 74.2%.[62]
In the 2004 presidential election, Democrat John Kerry received 55.1% of the vote here (5,682 ballots cast), outpolling Republican George W. Bush with 43.9% (4,525 votes) and other candidates with 0.6% (83 votes), among the 10,315 ballots cast by the township's 13,548 registered voters, for a turnout percentage of 76.1.[63]
See below, from Wikipedia. It seems fair to say that Millburn is more Republican than M/SO, if that sits better with you. For such a liberal town, Millburn certainly turned out for George Bush in 2004. How'd that work out for you?
Maplewood:
In the 2008 presidential election, Democrat Barack Obama received 81.9% of the vote here (10,649 cast), ahead of Republican John McCain with 16.6% (2,156 votes) and other candidates with 0.7% (90 votes), among the 13,003 ballots cast by the township's 16,523 registered voters, for a turnout of 78.7%.[56]
In the 2004 presidential election, Democrat John Kerry received 76.3% of the vote here (9,113 ballots cast), outpolling Republican George W. Bush with 22.7% (2,709 votes) and other candidates with 0.6% (90 votes), among the 11,943 ballots cast by the township's 15,289 registered voters, for a turnout percentage of 78.1.[57]
South Orange:
In the 2008 presidential election, Democrat Barack Obama received 81.1% of the vote here (7,228 cast), ahead of Republican John McCain with 17.6% (1,569 votes) and other candidates with 0.6% (53 votes), among the 8,913 ballots cast by the township's 12,243 registered voters, for a turnout of 72.8%.[74]
In the 2004 presidential election, Democrat John Kerry received 77.3% of the vote here (6,641 ballots cast), outpolling Republican George W. Bush with 21.9% (1,883 votes) and other candidates with 0.4% (45 votes), among the 8,590 ballots cast by the township's 10,990 registered voters, for a turnout percentage of 78.2.[75]
Millburn:
In the 2008 presidential election, Democrat Barack Obama received 58.6% of the vote here (6,097 cast), ahead of Republican John McCain with 39.8% (4,144 votes) and other candidates with 0.7% (72 votes), among the 10,410 ballots cast by the township's 14,034 registered voters, for a turnout of 74.2%.[62]
In the 2004 presidential election, Democrat John Kerry received 55.1% of the vote here (5,682 ballots cast), outpolling Republican George W. Bush with 43.9% (4,525 votes) and other candidates with 0.6% (83 votes), among the 10,315 ballots cast by the township's 13,548 registered voters, for a turnout percentage of 76.1.[63]
You are kidding, right? Do you follow politics much? In a presidential election, that would be considered a mandate for Kerry. 55% to 43% is huge! So THIS is what leads you to believe Millburn is a "republican town"?
Look, I like most of South Orange and Maplewood. I don't have many bad things to say about either town. But if you are trying to say that Millburn is a republican town, and using South Orange and Maplewood stats as a benchmark, you are way off base. Millburn is your typical north eastern, wealthy, liberal, democratic town. The stats for SO/M look more like a radical, fundimental, fringe town. I would say the same for towns in the South or Midwest that have similar numbers in the opposite direction. It tells me that there are a lot of people there who vote the party line no matter what.
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I guess no one wants to say it, but I will. Many, many white people do not want to send their children to a predominately black public school system. If they didn't you wouldn't see post after post on give me the heads up on a school system. See, that was easy. PS, I'm not endorsing this and I attended and graduated from the Jersey City public school system.
What a silly thread. Who cares if some people prefer SO/Maplewood and others prefer Millburn. Ridiculous to think that everyone has to prefer the same town that you do. FWIW i grew up next to Millburn and i'm not a fan. But why would i care if someone else loves it. Or doesn't. But higher test scores in one town most definitely does not mean its the better town for all people or all kids.
Does anyone have any input on the kids/schools in the West Milford, NJ area? Any info would be much appreciated.
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