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Old 11-23-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Nothing really I'd take lower property taxes and worse schools, IMHO.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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We need to go to private, capitalistic, "for profit" schools where there is competition to produce the best kids. The current system is the equivalent of educational Obamacare, with all the "fail" that one would expect.
If your ideal of, "for profit", elementary & secondary schools is anything like the plague on humanity represented by the, "for profit", so-called "higher education" schools, all I can say is...God help us.

The, "for profit", colleges are essentially looting the US Treasury, with the collusion of a few Congressmen & Senators whom they have royally rewarded for their efforts. The students at the, "for profit", schools are much less likely to graduate--as compared to students who attend public colleges or private non-profit colleges, have a much more difficult time being hired if they do graduate, and we--the taxpayers--are paying the bills for this exercise in educational malfeasance.

For-profit colleges soaking up tax dollars despite student loan defaults, low graduation rates -- and could be in trouble - San Jose Mercury News

Cracking down on for-profit colleges - The Week

For-profit colleges giving big to helpful House members

U.S. GAO - For-Profit Colleges: Undercover Testing Finds Colleges Encouraged Fraud and Engaged in Deceptive and Questionable Marketing Practices

For-Profit Colleges Under Fire: ‘They’re Selling A Dream’ « CBS Minnesota


Isn't, "the free market", just wonderful?

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Old 11-24-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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If your ideal of, "for profit", elementary & secondary schools is anything like the plague on humanity represented by the, "for profit", so-called "higher education" schools, all I can say is...God help us.

The, "for profit", colleges are essentially looting the US Treasury, with the collusion of a few Congressmen & Senators whom they have royally rewarded for their efforts. The students at the, "for profit", schools are much less likely to graduate--as compared to students who attend public colleges or private non-profit colleges, have a much more difficult time being hired if they do graduate, and we--the taxpayers--are paying the bills for this exercise in educational malfeasance.

Isn't, "the free market", just wonderful?

No, you don't understand. We need to get rid of all public support for colleges. All of it. Gone. All colleges should be for profit and for profit only. There should be no state schools. The state has no business teaching anyone anything anytime. Education is a human service, just like any other, and needs to be subject to the same competitive market forces that produce excellence in every other area. In short, Capitalistic private schools will either produce great students, or will go bankrupt. And they will do this with private money provided by students and parents who demand a good return on their investment. No government student loans, no government subsidies, no reduced tuition. You want education? You pay, just like when you want anything else. No free lunches. No mooching off your neighbors. No hysterical screeching demands to be provided with anything for free at the expense of others.

And then? The same thing for primary education. The state needs to be OUT OF THE BIZ! All schools should be private and their motivation to produce great education should be simple: so they can make obscene and lovely amounts of cold green CASH!

Profit and money are the BEST way to motivate humans to do a good job. And I want the system to be as Darwinian and Cruel as possible. Teachers should directly compete with each other to produce students who blow the doors off the rest of the world. If they don't? They don't eat.

The idea that the horrific mediocracies of Europe can compete with us is an astonishing disgrace. Why can they compete with us at all? Because in education, we have destroyed the purest and sweetest motivator of human behavior ever devised: The Profit Motive. And we have substituted for it, the same gray water system that runs through the squalid brains of the Frances and the Spains. Worship of mediocracy and ineffectiveness. Crushing individuality and raising the weak and the stupid to the highest standard.

It's got to stop. We need to lead, not imitate the crap societies that haven't invented anything useful since the Renaissance. And the best way to reform our horrific and failure laden Obamacation system is to apply Capitalism and Greed and the Profit Motive, because that is the way we became the greatest nation in the history of the planet in the first place, and that is the only way we will ever return to being Top Dog. Leftists be damned. Let's get this ship righted.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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I'll take a German car over a Ford any day. COMMIE CAR MAKERS!
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