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There aren't any Republicans in Camden. The city is 4% white. Puerto Ricans and blacks, who make up the majority of the population, tend to vote Democratic by huge numbers on the national as well as the local level.
So they have some sort of uniform measure of if they've actually learned enough for the bar we set for a high school diploma?
SAT/ACT are not controlled by the state, nor do all students take them, and how the test is calibrated does change, the difficulty has not been entirely uniform over time. As such they are not a good measure for a state to be using.
Beyond that, when I took the HSPA a few years back, two things were apparent: No one is studying for the HSPA as it's unimportant as long as you pass. And the second is that if you don't pass, you really don't deserve a high school diploma, it's incredibly easy.
If they served it to sophmores or seniors (since it's apparently such a joke) I think the scores would be higher. When they served it to us as juniors it created a major schedule issue amongst the class. Normal periods were disrupted, SAT classes were at night and on weekends, kids had sports and after school activites to attend to. Again, the state serves the exam during the WORST POSSIBLE TIME of the year to yield results -- late spring right as kids are taking standardized tests to get into college.
The state needs to back the f*** off with these test measurements. Tell them to take a chill pill. It's not all about numbers.
All students HAVE to take the HSPA, therefore it is a better snapshot of the quality of the school, even if not as meaningful as end of year exams.
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Originally Posted by lkb0714
So?
A school like Camden should start with getting all students to pass.
Not disagreeing that Camden or any other school where a non-negligible number of kids without serious disabilities not passing has serious problems it needs to get a grip on (the test is a joke and kids not passing is indicative of them not getting nearly an adequate education). Just saying that for schools where most students take the SAT -- and heck, even at mediocre schools where many don't but only a small percent fail to pass the HSPA -- that the SAT is in fact a better snapshot of quality.
If they served it to sophmores or seniors (since it's apparently such a joke) I think the scores would be higher. When they served it to us as juniors it created a major schedule issue amongst the class. Normal periods were disrupted, SAT classes were at night and on weekends, kids had sports and after school activites to attend to. Again, the state serves the exam during the WORST POSSIBLE TIME of the year to yield results -- late spring right as kids are taking standardized tests to get into college.
The state needs to back the f*** off with these test measurements. Tell them to take a chill pill. It's not all about numbers.
it is all about numbers. you should be able to pass tests and get high scores. if you cant, then you aren't very bright. tests in school (especially the standardized ones) were fun and easy. why would you bother complaining about them?
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Guess the teacher union is proud on their accomplishments in Camden. Most teachers in Camden have already given up but even if we could fine teacher that would be willing to work down there, we wouldn't be able to hire them because of all of the protected ones down there.
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