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TRENTON — After days of blistering criticism from ACLU, the CDC and even the United Nations secretary general over Gov. Chris Christie’s new, 21 day mandatory quarantine policy for all healthcare workers exposed to Ebola, the New Jersey governor has gotten a much-needed vote of support from a heavyweight name in the medical community: the Nobel Prize-winning doctor and medical researcher, Dr. Bruce Beutler.
Dr. Beutler, an American medical doctor and researcher, won the Nobel Prize for Medicine and Physiology in 2011 for his work researching the cellular subsystem of the body’s overall immune system – the part of it that defends bodies from infection by other organisms, like Ebola.
He is currently the Director of the Center for the Genetics of Host Defense at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas – the first U.S. city to treat an Ebola patient and also the first to watch one die from the virus. In an exclusive interview with NJ Advance Media, Beutler reviewed Christie’s new policy of mandatory quarantine for all health care workers exposed to Ebola, and declared: “I favor it.”
Hopefully - sooner rather than later - there will be some real consensus as to deal with this issue; but now with one US Congressman saying there is "increasing evidence" that the administration is planning to bring non-Americans with Ebola to the US for treatment...
my guess is any real consensus will come after November 4
is there a negative to preventing people from the affected countries that arent american citizens from entering? or is it just not necessary?
the negative to that is that people will still travel, but become harder to track. allowing travel but tracking means we know who's going where. is it 100% risk free? no. nothing is. but neither is a travel ban, and the experts say they'd rather not push people to underground travel where they are less likely to be tracked from start point to end point.
as an auditor, that sounds completely logical to me.
if there are no negatives, then why not do it? its clear americans want the travel ban, at least for non-americans. then we test americans before re-entering (hold them if holding is necessary). if stopping the travel "wont do much" to protect us, so what? it may do a little and it may not. if there are no negatives, then do it.
there is more to this reasoning than we are being told.
testing is not a travel ban. i don't think anyone is opposed to the screening that's being done to travellers entering the country.
i haven't followed polling, but is it "clear" americans want a travel ban? clear based on what?
Hopefully - sooner rather than later - there will be some real consensus as to deal with this issue; but now with one US Congressman saying there is "increasing evidence" that the administration is planning to bring non-Americans with Ebola to the US for treatment...
my guess is any real consensus will come after November 4
that's great. so one doctor has spoken in support of Christie's actions. yet, hundreds of others are opposed.
i don't really care what "one US Congressman" who's campaiging throws out there about Obama conspiracy theories.
testing is not a travel ban. i don't think anyone is opposed to the screening that's being done to travellers entering the country.
i haven't followed polling, but is it "clear" americans want a travel ban? clear based on what?
i believe i just read an article saying 75% of responders wanted a travel ban. considering the guy in dallas and the nyc doctor brought ebola from one of the affected countries, i think people are linking travel from those countries and bringing in ebola. im not sure what kind of underground travel options are available but if these people are infected, the harder you make it for them the less likely they will have time to figure out how to beat the system.
that's great. so one doctor has spoken in support of Christie's actions. yet, hundreds of others are opposed.
I haven't seen "hundreds" - but it goes back to my point that hopefully some sort of real consensus can be reached on a standard treatment
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Originally Posted by bradykp
i don't really care what "one US Congressman" who's campaiging throws out there about Obama conspiracy theories.
Neither do I
My point is that this is just the most recent football to be tossed around Washington, and this 'breaking story' coming just 9 days before an election - with no actual proof - makes it more a political talking point than a medical emergency
what do you think about the story thats out there regarding obama wanting to treat non-americans here?
If that's true, then I've really seen it all. I cannot fathom the logic behind that and thinking that is somehow a good idea.
Who would pay for transport and medical care? Who would pay for transport back to their home country (IF they are sent home... with this country, you never know )? How many doctors and nurses will walk out, unwilling to treat patients who aren't even American and should absolutely not be brought here under any circumstances if infected with ebola?
It is NOT our job to treat people here unless they are citizens or already here. Bringing non-Americans here to treat them is a terrible idea. I don't think this administration understands the idea of "containment."
If this is true, I literally cannot fathom it. I can't express words properly over how I feel about it, actually.
The flu = 49,000 dead per year in America. Per year. Ebola = 1 dead in America.
The 24 hour news cycle needs to talk about something. They need to excite you into watching somehow. The fear of the unknown. You accept that flu stat & it does not scare you because you are familiar with it. Ebola however........... RUNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
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)? How many doctors and nurses will walk out, unwilling to treat patients who aren't even American and should absolutely not be brought here under any circumstances if infected with ebola? 
