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Good to know! How about posting some sources showing how the claim was debunked? Preferably with numbers? We'll be waiting!
look at your "sources." they are all opinion articles without the numbers. the main issue is that it includes numbers that are earned benefits vs public assistance like welfare/medicaid spending. they lumped in military spending, social security benefits, government employees, etc. which makes the whole thing useless. do you deny that? if you dont deny that, no need for me to drill down into the numbers; its debunked on the face of it.
look at your "sources." they are all opinion articles without the numbers. the main issue is that it includes numbers that are earned benefits vs public assistance like welfare/medicaid spending. they lumped in military spending, social security benefits, government employees, etc. which makes the whole thing useless. do you deny that? if you dont deny that, no need for me to drill down into the numbers; its debunked on the face of it.
The above is where the "taker states" argument always falls apart. I live in Maryland which gets back @ $1.35 for every dollar. I can almost guarantee it would be a "taker" state if not for the federal employees who live here, the direct military spending and the government contractors income (NAS PAX is huge on the last).
The above is where the "taker states" argument always falls apart. I live in Maryland which gets back @ $1.35 for every dollar. I can almost guarantee it would be a "taker" state if not for the federal employees who live here, the direct military spending and the government contractors income (NAS PAX is huge on the last).
i dont know if the numbers work or not overall but the statement is absurd without using the right numbers. the fact that i havent seen it done with the right numbers tells me that it isnt as useful when done properly.
and that helps with the current situation how exactly? It's all dems in there now....
Well, the current pension crisis in NJ was started by a Republican, Christie Whitman, who got into office and enacted a tax cut. This resulted in a budget shortfall, so to "repair" the shortfall, she stopped the states portion of donations to the pension fund. This was compounded by further governors, Corzine was the first governor after Whitman to donate. Then we get Chris Christie in office, who works out a "compromise" deal with State pension employees. Then when it came time for him to fulfill the states side of the bargain, (after getting concessions from the unions), he reneged on the deal, claiming it was, "unconstitutional". Like Whitman when it comes time for CC to collect his state pension, I'm sure he will!
Well, the current pension crisis in NJ was started by a Republican, Christie Whitman, who got into office and enacted a tax cut. This resulted in a budget shortfall, so to "repair" the shortfall, she stopped the states portion of donations to the pension fund.
Yes, that began our state's descent into fiscal peril, but then Whitman compounded the problem by "borrowing" from the state's pension funds, and she never repaid the "borrowed" money. Any objective assessment of that situation would have to label it as theft from pension funds that had previously been funded to a greater extent than was required by law before Chrissy Baby stole tens of millions from those funds. Post-Whitman, they were no longer funded to that same comfortable extent.
Then, when she left office in order to become Dubya's EPA Administrator, she was replaced by Donald DeFrancesco, who authorized a fiscally-unwise boost in pension benefits in order to win more votes for GOP candidates. That crass action by DeFrancesco was essentially the final nail in the coffin for the formerly well-funded state pension funds.
You really have to admire those "fiscally-responsible" Republicans.
NOT...
a guy who runs a facebook page im a member of posted this article. it seemed interesting and relevant to me. i dont know what is presently done for this stuff; whether or not this is something innovative or not.
Well, the current pension crisis in NJ was started by a Republican, Christie Whitman, who got into office and enacted a tax cut. This resulted in a budget shortfall, so to "repair" the shortfall, she stopped the states portion of donations to the pension fund. This was compounded by further governors, Corzine was the first governor after Whitman to donate. Then we get Chris Christie in office, who works out a "compromise" deal with State pension employees. Then when it came time for him to fulfill the states side of the bargain, (after getting concessions from the unions), he reneged on the deal, claiming it was, "unconstitutional". Like Whitman when it comes time for CC to collect his state pension, I'm sure he will!
Little reading comprehension would do wonders. Our representation in Washington that makes us a provider state are all dems. When was the last time we elected a Repub to the senate Sherlock? and where have we ended up, as one of only 10 provider states...and its going to get worse.
Yes, that began our state's descent into fiscal peril, but then Whitman compounded the problem by "borrowing" from the state's pension funds, and she never repaid the "borrowed" money. Any objective assessment of that situation would have to label it as theft from pension funds that had previously been funded to a greater extent than was required by law before Chrissy Baby stole tens of millions from those funds. Post-Whitman, they were no longer funded to that same comfortable extent.
Then, when she left office in order to become Dubya's EPA Administrator, she was replaced by Donald DeFrancesco, who authorized a fiscally-unwise boost in pension benefits in order to win more votes for GOP candidates. That crass action by DeFrancesco was essentially the final nail in the coffin for the formerly well-funded state pension funds.
You really have to admire those "fiscally-responsible" Republicans.
NOT...
I guess your a big fan of AOC and those unwilling to work....you'll want to pay for those folks too right?
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