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Old 03-10-2019, 09:13 PM
 
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Since Newark is undergoing a redevelopment phase, I wonder if there are any plans to extend its subway line. It would be great if the subway line extend to service ALL of Newark not just northern Newark. It would be great if the Newark subway line extended to parts of Elizabeth, the Oranges, Irvington, Belleville, and Nutley. It will help reduce car traffic by encouraging people to use an alternative transportation option. Also it would be an efficient way to connect multiple cities/towns that would normally require a car/cab service to travel.
Has the Mayor Baraka discuss about improving the Newark subway line?
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Old 03-10-2019, 11:10 PM
 
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passenger rail for some reason is not a priority in the US. But we can invade third world countries in a month.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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NJ Transit doesn't even have the money to upgrade and maintain it's existing rail lines, let alone build out new ones. The only way this could even remotely work is if there were already existing rail lines in these suburban areas that could be connected to the lines that the city subway uses. There would also need to be a study done to determine how much potential ridership exists in these areas.
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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I think at this point, NJ and NJT should really concentrate on trying to get enough money for the Gateway tunnels to Manhattan. If at least one of the existing tunnels will have to be closed, thousands of NJ commuters will not be able to get to work resulting in a huge economic disruption and job losses. There will be thousand of extra cars on the road hopelessly trying to get somewhere in horrible traffic. So even NJ drivers who don't care about NJT will be affected.

But yes, in state rail transportation barely exists and needs to be improved. All rail connections are designed to get people to Manhattan. But I think this should wait until the Gateway tunnels will start construction...
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Old 03-11-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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I think at this point, NJ and NJT should really concentrate on trying to get enough money for the Gateway tunnels to Manhattan.
Yeah, but they won't. The project is too big, it attracts too many parasites who can kill the deal if they don't get their concession, and if you try to give all the concessions then the deal gets killed because it's too expensive. Only way it's going to get built is if one of the tunnels fails and it has to be done on an emergency basis, and even then it will only happen if there's a strong executive to push it through, and Murphy ain't it.
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Old 03-11-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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where is the ganja money going to?
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Old 03-11-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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I think at this point, NJ and NJT should really concentrate on trying to get enough money for the Gateway tunnels to Manhattan. If at least one of the existing tunnels will have to be closed, thousands of NJ commuters will not be able to get to work resulting in a huge economic disruption and job losses. There will be thousand of extra cars on the road hopelessly trying to get somewhere in horrible traffic. So even NJ drivers who don't care about NJT will be affected.

But yes, in state rail transportation barely exists and needs to be improved. All rail connections are designed to get people to Manhattan. But I think this should wait until the Gateway tunnels will start construction...
LMAO, pretty sure they're concentrating on that rather heavily. It's not just those two entities.

The Gateway Program Development Corporation (GDC), a New Jersey non-profit, was formed in November 2016 to oversee and deliver the Program. GDC works closely with stakeholders, including the United States Department of Transportation, Amtrak, NJ TRANSIT, and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, to advance this critical program.

http://www.gatewayprogram.org/about.html
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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Since Newark is undergoing a redevelopment phase, I wonder if there are any plans to extend its subway line. It would be great if the subway line extend to service ALL of Newark not just northern Newark. It would be great if the Newark subway line extended to parts of Elizabeth, the Oranges, Irvington, Belleville, and Nutley. It will help reduce car traffic by encouraging people to use an alternative transportation option. Also it would be an efficient way to connect multiple cities/towns that would normally require a car/cab service to travel.

Sorry Op, you missed the trolley by nearly 70 yrs. Here is a seriously interesting read from the past and there are plenty more on the web. Please take a few minutes to read it and all the destinations the NWK trolley traveled, it will blow your mind !





Colorful History of Newark's Street Trolley Cars: From Birth to Death


I was a kid when we rode the trolley in East Orange, it would run from the car barns (the roundhouse where the cars were turned around) at the border of Nwk/ where Orange St met up w/ Main St in EO. This was long before 280 and the GS Parkway were built.


The trolley traveled up both Main St and Central Ave. On Main St the cars traveled all the way up to West Orange (by Anne's Clam Bar/bottom of Northfield Ave). Back then the streets were cobblestone and not paved. In the early 50's they started ripping the tracks and cobble stones/ paved the streets and buses took over, but you could still get a "transfer" to ride the subway into downtown @ N/C.



Easy to check the WWW to research the old trolley system and look at the old pics. Lotsa luck on this ever being rebuilt. Never gonna happen. You missed a seriously great time from days gone by ! Swell memories, thanks for the reminder !
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:18 PM
 
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they need to finish the lackawanna cutoff to scranton. All of northeast PA needs passenger rail service
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Old 03-12-2019, 03:37 AM
 
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......................It would be great if the Newark subway line extended to parts of Elizabeth, the Oranges, Irvington, Belleville, and Nutley. It will help reduce car traffic by encouraging people to use an alternative transportation option. Also it would be an efficient way to connect multiple cities/towns that would normally require a car/cab service to travel.
Has the Mayor Baraka discuss about improving the Newark subway line?


You assume those towns want to be connect to Newark ,they don't,no one does.
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