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View Poll Results: At what grade level should NJ schools teach about Gender ID and Sexual Orientation?
Before 5th grade 8 7.02%
5th 7 6.14%
6th 9 7.89%
7th 5 4.39%
8th 4 3.51%
9th and above 12 10.53%
Never 69 60.53%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-07-2022, 04:13 PM
 
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Maybe I'm just an elder millennial now, but we were taught this in 5th grade (in Pennsylvania) and I didn't think anything of it. By that time, I already knew what sex and sexual orientation were anyway.
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Old 04-07-2022, 04:32 PM
 
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The right answer is never. Kids go to school to learn about reading, writing and math. If you are an advocate for this, especially at the younger ages, you're likely a pedophile.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:02 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I’m sorry, I was wrong about this topic. This is apparently starting in SECOND grade

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Old 04-07-2022, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Something I’ve noticed here and elsewhere (on The Facebook), and I’m speaking as a man who’s straight as an arrow…

It’s almost always heterosexual men flipping out over LGBTQA… topics. Women, whether heterosexual or otherwise, are much more accepting regarding these people/issues.

What are the men so afraid of?

I guess it’s what’s discussed below. I have absolutely no issue with my kids learning about people who are gay. Everyone is entitled to their preference without judgment. The trans/gender identity stuff gets a little tricky for me. I respect all people but part of me feels likes at least SOME of the people who feel they’re a gender other than the one assigned at birth have some psychological issues and need therapy. I wouldn’t want my kids being told that they might feel they’re a gender other than the one people tell them they are and that’s ok, as the article below suggests. I would feel better if they just taught kids that some people identify as a gender other than how they were born and we need to respect them also even if we feel differently than they do. The former almost seems like they’re a encouraging kids to be transgender.


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I’m sorry, I was wrong about this topic. This is apparently starting in SECOND grade

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Old 04-07-2022, 07:51 PM
 
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The right answer is never. Kids go to school to learn about reading, writing and math. If you are an advocate for this, especially at the younger ages, you're likely a pedophile.
That's one of the stupider claims you've ever posted here, and it's got a fair amount of competition.

You are free to disagree about kids being taught these subjects in schools, but it's pretty vile and frankly weird to accuse people who think gender information should be taught of being pedophiles. C'mon. Besides the stupidity of it, it doesn't do much for your image. I thought you were supposed to be some kind of big Christian. There's that bearing false witness thing, ya know.
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Old 04-07-2022, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Maybe I'm just an elder millennial now, but we were taught this in 5th grade (in Pennsylvania) and I didn't think anything of it. By that time, I already knew what sex and sexual orientation were anyway.
When I was about eight years old my mother told me about her much older male cousin who was gay and what that meant. He moved from his small town in England in the 1930s to London to work in theater. He couldn't have stayed in that small town.

I don't think that has to be taught in school. If it is, 9th grade is far too late.
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Old 04-07-2022, 09:51 PM
 
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That's one of the stupider claims you've ever posted here, and it's got a fair amount of competition.

You are free to disagree about kids being taught these subjects in schools, but it's pretty vile and frankly weird to accuse people who think gender information should be taught of being pedophiles. C'mon. Besides the stupidity of it, it doesn't do much for your image. I thought you were supposed to be some kind of big Christian. There's that bearing false witness thing, ya know.


There is no reason to be talking about this subject to children, and the only reason to do so is to normalize a mental illness or groom (there's a lot more pedophilia going on over transgenderism., fyi). Discussion of the fluidity of a sex, is not something a very impressionable child is going to understand. Just an open discussion about this plants the seeds into their heads that this is normal, or gives ideas to children, that maybe they should be the opposite sex, or sexual identity is a choice. Being a transgender is a mental illness, and you can bicker that its not, however it has a 50% suicide rate. Something is wrong here, and us adults haven't rooted the cause. This is a discussion that if parents feel they need to have, it should be done at home and not at a school.

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Old 04-08-2022, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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This thread was catnip from the beginning, as designed.
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Old 04-08-2022, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Yea you're definitely one of them. Got nothing better to do than cry about culture war BS all day on City Data forum.
All day? Wake up. The children are being poisoned and you are fine with it.
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Old 04-08-2022, 08:31 AM
 
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I think kids need to be taught politeness and respect, acceptance, etc. as young kids. The. about the existence of orientations as they come into puberty and might be feeling that they are not straight. I wouldn’t want kids feeling like they don’t know what they are or feel ashamed for not feeling like their friends and peers. But young kids shouldn’t be taught specifics at such an age.

I think the best approach would be to have parents have to sign a waiver, as I don’t think they do currently, before the kids are taught this stuff. And post the curriculum with details online or send to the parents at home. Let parents be informed and give them the info to make an informed choice. I wonder how many parents or people in general know exactly the content being taught. This is one of those topics that can be approached at varying levels of detail and content. I would want to know more details before I could make a decision for my kids.
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