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Old 08-29-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Where are the fathers of these young hooligans? Families with spiritual principles are the answer but are hard to come by. Pardon me for stirring a pot but i think few are willing to look at the underlying causes and reasons for voilence.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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Where are the fathers of these young hooligans? Families with spiritual principles are the answer but are hard to come by. Pardon me for stirring a pot but i think few are willing to look at the underlying causes and reasons for voilence.
Spirituality has nothing to do with it. The underlying problems are poverty and education.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Where are the fathers of these young hooligans? Families with spiritual principles are the answer but are hard to come by. Pardon me for stirring a pot but i think few are willing to look at the underlying causes and reasons for voilence.
I can respect the overall gist of your remark, but are you really inferring that religion/spirituality is an answer to senseless violence? I can agree with the "fathers" and "family" part...
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:35 PM
 
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Well said Road Pig. Kids who have strong faith are not out doing committing the crimes. People who deny that truth don't understand it themselves.

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Where are the fathers of these young hooligans? Families with spiritual principles are the answer but are hard to come by. Pardon me for stirring a pot but i think few are willing to look at the underlying causes and reasons for voilence.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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Well said Road Pig. Kids who have strong faith are not out doing committing the crimes. People who deny that truth don't understand it themselves.
Religion is responsible for most of the worlds wars and don't forget: Waco siege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Jim Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about reading, studying and applying the Good Book to each of our own lives. Tim Tebow, Kirk Cameron are good role models. That's not to say that lost people are not possible of being positive contributors to society. What I am saying is that kids who understand truth as taught in the Good Book are not going to be caught up in the wrong crowd.

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Religion is responsible for most of the worlds wars and don't forget: Waco siege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Jim Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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Enough religion. Other faiths also produce good people.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about reading, studying and applying the Good Book to each of our own lives. Tim Tebow, Kirk Cameron are good role models. That's not to say that lost people are not possible of being positive contributors to society. What I am saying is that kids who understand truth as taught in the Good Book are not going to be caught up in the wrong crowd.
No.

The key is to improve education and add jobs.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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A relatively small slice of the population is committing most of the murders. But the "clearance" rate for murder in New Orleans is extremely low, meaning that most murderers get away with it. Simply improving the clearance rate and creating a clearer link between murder/attempted murder and permanent incarceration would reduce the murder rate over time. Cracking down with everything available (including federal gun laws and federal prosecutions) is a reasonable stopgap measure in the short-term.

The immediate goal should be to recognize that the city has - in effect - a bunch of serial murderers running around. People who have committed multiple murders or murder attempts and remain free to commit more. As long as we have a growing surveillance/spying state, it might as well be used to help convict these people in federal court. The federal system also allows inmates to be shuffled off to distant prisons in places like California, which makes it tougher for New Orleans-based criminals to keep running their enterprises from their cells.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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No.

The key is to improve education and add jobs.
Don't bother. You can't argue logic and reason to most religious folk who think moral barometers are set by the same book used to condone rape, murder, war, slavery, etc.

Its pretty clear to me that the solution to high crime in any city is increased education and jobs to reduce poverty levels. Those in impoverished areas are either violent for financial gain or because its all they know. Simply put; When people are learning and earning, there is less reason to commit crime. It all goes back to reason, not that other r-word...
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