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and it still goes without saying, never heard it before, except for here and you... I mean really who says that. Lame ones do.
Every major new source in NYC uses this term. Some of these news source specialize in local news. In fact, there are several that probably wouldn't have any readership at all if it weren't for the people looking for nyc-centric news.
So it sounds like you have been living under a rock... which is lame!
I've never heard any native New Yorker say I live in the outer borough. If I hear someone use that then it's red flag that they probably are transplant. Exception would be some old timer saying that. In that case I may think that's how it was referred before my parents and my generation (I'm 32).
Anyhoo. In my opinion since at least since the 90s. The outer boroughs were terminology that's used mainly in news or some documentation to refer to literally "outer boroughs" so they don't have to name all the outer boroughs.
But to answer OP's question, yeah Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, and State Island are the outer boroughs. But not used in way like I live in outer borough.
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Nobody would say "I live in an outer borough," unless they are deliberately trying to evade a question as to where they live. People would say something like "I live in <insert borough name or neighborhood name>" just as a Manhattanite may say "I live in Manhattan," or "I live on the Upper West Side."
I've never heard any native New Yorker say I live in the outer borough. If I hear someone use that then it's red flag that they probably are transplant. Exception would be some old timer saying that. In that case I may think that's how it was referred before my parents and my generation (I'm 32).
Almost no one would say "I live in an outer borough." That's not what's being discussed here. Please re-read the thread.
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The outer boroughs were terminology that's used mainly in news or some documentation to refer to literally "outer boroughs" so they don't have to name all the outer boroughs.
Exactly, that's how people are using it here too. It can be used, for example, to suggest to someone that they not live in Manhattan because it's too expensive, but rather, they should look in Queens, the Bronx, Brooklyn or Staten Island. It's significantly easier to type and gets to the point AND it is already in use by all the major news publications so obviously it's an acceptable phrase. The local publications would not use it if it were somehow foreign or unacceptable or annoying to local people (the majority of their readership).
Almost no one would say "I live in an outer borough." That's not what's being discussed here. Please re-read the thread.
Exactly, that's how people are using it here too. It can be used, for example, to suggest to someone that they not live in Manhattan because it's too expensive, but rather, they should look in Queens, the Bronx, Brooklyn or Staten Island. It's significantly easier to type and gets to the point AND it is already in use by all the major news publications so obviously it's an acceptable phrase. The local publications would not use it if it were somehow foreign or unacceptable or annoying to local people (the majority of their readership).
I think it is used when all of the boroughs need to be named, instead of saying...Brooklyn, the Bronx, Queens, and Staten Island, it is easier to just say the outer boroughs.
Not most, only the western portion closest to upper Manhattan. But it was not a borough in its own right at the time. And Manhattan definitely held it at arm's length with that designation of "Annexed District."
I dont see how thats the case considering that portion of the bronx, was considered to be a part of "new york" county
Almost no one would say "I live in an outer borough." That's not what's being discussed here. Please re-read the thread.
Exactly, that's how people are using it here too. It can be used, for example, to suggest to someone that they not live in Manhattan because it's too expensive, but rather, they should look in Queens, the Bronx, Brooklyn or Staten Island. It's significantly easier to type and gets to the point AND it is already in use by all the major news publications so obviously it's an acceptable phrase. The local publications would not use it if it were somehow foreign or unacceptable or annoying to local people (the majority of their readership).
Ok got it...but people on cdata over uses the term. Like seriously
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