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Because I've been seeing them a few stops past Kosciuszko. Early day, late nights, and everyday. There are 'sprinkles' of them at Chauncy now along the J/Z train line, that's 1 stop away from the Junction.
Gentrification will occur so long as the need for affordable housing continues. After all, that's what drives the entire process. The fact that it's gotten that far down the J and that the level of gentrifiers seems to be dissipating indicates that the process is either slowing down, is in infant stages at that location, or geographic dispersal lowers the density of gentrifiers. Most likely, it's a combination of all three.
theres always been one or two in ENY by cypress hills even when I lived over there years ago... The difference is now you're seeing them more because they're not terrified to step outside anymore... In terms of significant presence I don't think it'll ever reach the junction...
From my observation, Halsey and Gates is about 25% to 30% of riders and walking pedestrians. Chauncy is about 5% of riders and walking pedestrians. To my surprise, an small presence at Norwood Ave about 1% to 2%, this is a few stops east of the Junction. Much further east, near 0% unless they are going westbound from the Airport.
The white population has actually shrunk in East NY... There used to be some by Cleveland, Norwood, Crescent, Cypress Hills... Once you hit Van Siclen things changed dramatically... Alot of pioneers for that area that came late 90s early 2000s moved to another part of Brooklyn or out of Brooklyn altogether...
In terms of what you see on the trains and the 25-30% numbers... Train passenger numbers are somewhat skewed... I highly doubt that the population we're discussing make more than 10% or at most 15% of the pop. around there... Same goes for the L train... every hipster and their mother takes the L train (it's in every hipsters bucket list to take the L train at least once) and visits friends in Bushwick so you'll see a bunch coming in and out of Halsey by Wyckoff and even some by Moffat and you'll assume that Halsey especially has become hippyland but the reality is that the presence is almost entirely confined to one building on Eldert Lane and other than that, the rest of the area is entirely black and hispanic...
I'm probably exaggerating with the percentages. But still, it's much more visible and notable at certain stops than others, and penetrating more inland. Also not too long ago, a Williamsburg northsider during a convo had stated to me that his woman and her friends got a spot at Chauncy in Bushwick, that's quite deep inland.
I'm probably exaggerating with the percentages. But still, it's much more visible and notable at certain stops than others, and penetrating more inland. Also not too long ago, a Williamsburg northsider during a convo had stated to me that his woman and her friends got a spot at Chauncy in Bushwick, that's quite deep inland.
Yea I think I saw her lol... Had to be... I take the L train almost everyday going to Broadway junction and I only see one lady that fits the description of a williamsburg northsider get off at Bushwick aberdeen station...
The white population has actually shrunk in East NY... There used to be some by Cleveland, Norwood, Crescent, Cypress Hills... Once you hit Van Siclen things changed dramatically... Alot of pioneers for that area that came late 90s early 2000s moved to another part of Brooklyn or out of Brooklyn altogether...
In terms of what you see on the trains and the 25-30% numbers... Train passenger numbers are somewhat skewed... I highly doubt that the population we're discussing make more than 10% or at most 15% of the pop. around there... Same goes for the L train... every hipster and their mother takes the L train (it's in every hipsters bucket list to take the L train at least once) and visits friends in Bushwick so you'll see a bunch coming in and out of Halsey by Wyckoff and even some by Moffat and you'll assume that Halsey especially has become hippyland but the reality is that the presence is almost entirely confined to one building on Eldert Lane and other than that, the rest of the area is entirely black and hispanic...
I don't know much about the rest of ENY but when I lived in City Line back in the early-mid 1990s there was still a few white families on my block. They all left, and so did almost all the Puerto Rican families.
The Hipster push is already in the Southern Bronx, and uptown Manhattan in general. They are doing the same thing every other person in NYC is doing...looking for somewhere affordable to live. If you are new to this city, and on a tight budget, you pursue locations on the periphery because they are more affordable.
Is this all that surprising? They are human beings after all, no matter how much you try to dehumanize them or blame them for "the destruction of NYC."
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