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Pain killer addicts have been known to fake illnesses and go to an ER just to get their fix.
I'm assuming this initiave attempts to curtail that pattern. I don't think the Bloomberg administration is trying to take away pain medicine for people who are really in pain. That's silly.
Yes, it appears that he is trying to prevent addicts from scoring. This makes more sense than banning sodas over a certain size.
I'm no fan of Bloomberg, but some people here hate everything he does regardless....
News headlines: "Bloomberg saves kittie from crossing the street and getting killed'
All-American red state: "arggghh, bloomberg dictator! let the kittie live her life as she wants!!! arghhh"[/quote]
News Headline: Bloomberg Law Prohibits Kitties from Crossing Street in an Effort to Prevent Possible Deaths
All-American Red State: Bloomberg sees one kitty hit by car, decides kitties can not cross street safely, usurps their right to cross.
The negatives of oxycontin far out way the benefits. I don't know why they just don't ban that poison. I agree with Bloomberg on this one. People need to be protected from themselves.
Personally, I think this does not go far enough. NYS (not just NYC) should have pharmacies strictly regulate and monitor in real time HOW MANY prescription pills of opoid painkillers a person can get in a month just like they do with OTC allergy/cold pills that can be used to make methamphetamine.
You and Bloomie ought to sit down and design some uniforms for the new Pain Service some day. I suggest a military style with well-polished jackboots.
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This is EXACTLY what should be done with pills like Vicodin, Oxycontin, Roxycodone, Hydrocodone, etc. These pills are just artificial heroin.
Heroin's artificial as it is. Morphine is the natural substance.
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They are chemical compounds that are manmade that exactly mimic natural heroin. These pills used to be just for cancer patients and patients expected to die soon to kill pain.
At no time was this category of drugs restricted to palliative care.
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I don't think the Bloomberg administration is trying to take away pain medicine for people who are really in pain. That's silly.
No, it's mean and nasty. And it's perfectly in character for drug warriors.
You and Bloomie ought to sit down and design some uniforms for the new Pain Service some day. I suggest a military style with well-polished jackboots.
Oh the drama!
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Heroin's artificial as it is. Morphine is the natural substance.
And synthetic morphine opioids are unlike heroin because they don't need any of those inconvenient poppies from dangerous countries. They can be created totally in a lab. But in essence they still affect people just like heroin does. It's heroin without the natural substance.
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At no time was this category of drugs restricted to palliative care.
Wrong. There was a time when the FDA did not allow opioids to be marketed for chronic pain not related to cancer, etc.
A Pain-Drug Champion Has Second Thoughts
By THOMAS CATAN and EVAN PEREZ
WSJ
It has been his life's work. Now, Russell Portenoy appears to be having second thoughts.
Two decades ago, the prominent New York pain-care specialist drove a movement to help people with chronic pain. He campaigned to rehabilitate a group of painkillers derived from the opium poppy that were long shunned by physicians because of their addictiveness.
Dr. Portenoy's message was wildly successful. Today, drugs containing opioids like Vicodin, OxyContin and Percocet are among the most widely prescribed pharmaceuticals in America.
Opioids are also behind the country's deadliest drug epidemic. More than 16,500 people die of overdoses annually, more than all illegal drugs combined.
Now, Dr. Portenoy and other pain doctors who promoted the drugs say they erred by overstating the drugs' benefits and glossing over risks. "Did I teach about pain management, specifically about opioid therapy, in a way that reflects misinformation? Well, against the standards of 2012, I guess I did," Dr. Portenoy said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. "We didn't know then what we know now."
For more information on this topic that Bloomy is sticking his nose into, please visit this website, but only do so if you're interested in the facts of the matter, rather than being outraged that some junkie might be prevented from scamming some "viccies" or "oxys" easily:
AllAmerican is as usual making up headlines (there is no ban!) just to trash Bloomberg. Unless you can carry 16 semi-automatics while buying a 90 ounce big gulp to chase down your 3 pill a day Oxycontin "medicine" for a bum knee, while your kids have a triple cheeseburger with extra sodium and transfat dipping sauce, you too are anti-American/anti-Freedom! (at least according to AllAmerican).
He simply hates Bloomberg and makes up lies to get people on his side....get a life dude and move to India where you can get all the FREEDOM of your dreams like working for 30 cents a day (FREEDOM from worker protections), dieing from meningitis (FREEDOM from government healthcare), living in the streets (FREEDOM from housing subsidies), and die from eating chicken (FREEDOM from those pesky FDA health guidelines/laws). GO NOW AND BE FREE!
And synthetic morphine opioids are unlike heroin because they don't need any of those inconvenient poppies from dangerous countries. They can be created totally in a lab. But in essence they still affect people just like heroin does. It's heroin without the natural substance.
Try again. Oxycodone is still derived from those inconvenient poppies. So is hydrocodone (Vicodin). There are completely synthetic opioids (methadone the most well known), but those aren't them.
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Wrong. There was a time when the FDA did not allow opioids to be marketed for chronic pain not related to cancer, etc.
Wrong. At no time were opioids restricted to palliative care.
Try again. Oxycodone is still derived from those inconvenient poppies. So is hydrocodone (Vicodin). There are completely synthetic opioids (methadone the most well known), but those aren't them.
Yes, let's nitpick and "nibble" at trivialities when you can't attack the main premise.
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Wrong. At no time were opioids restricted to palliative care.
You can write whatever you want just to argue, but nobody cares unless you supply supporting documentation, as I did. (Or your bio as a medical pain management professional with 20 or more years of experience.)
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Yes, a mostly information-free presentation from a special interest group; what of it?
Convieniently "nibbling" around again by blatantly ignoring the other links I cited. Nybbler is certainly a good name for you. Now please stop boring me or are you just one of those "have to get the last word, even if I'm totally wrong" types? ***Sigh*** MORE pathetic boredom.
Question anything that comes out of New York. They are not at all interested in the individual citizen.
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