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The article doesn't state that but the thread title left it up to question.
Hip in what regard? The arts scene is city wide. The city is full of liberals and progressives throughout. Plenty of people living alternative lifestyles all over NYC. NYC as a whole is the most diverse place in the USA in a lot of ways. The NYC lifestyle is all about these aspects and social connections versus a car centric/isolationist USA.
Try leaving the metro, the world is a very different place outside the 5 boroughs.
The arts scene is not city wide. Most of Queens has no art scene. Ditto for the Bronx. There's a few exceptions. Much of Brooklyn doesn't have an arts scene, either. Areas like Williamsburg and Bushwick do.
Staten Island is not that liberal or progressive. Its pretty Republican. Not that artsy either.
As for a diverse place, a lot of people just work or whatever and come home. Its not like New Yorkers always sample every neighborhood. Again, this is fictionalized image of the city.
Queens is basically suburban and residential, with nothing going on like major nightclubs, theatre, big bands, etc.
Ditto for Staten Island. Parts of Brooklyn are like that, as is the North Bronx. South Bronx, North Central Brooklyn, Northeast Brooklyn is ghetto. Not too much goes on in Upper Manhattan, either. People go to Manhattan south of midtown, Williamsburg, and a few other places to go out and see artsy stuff that doesn't happen in the neighborhoods where they live. Often artists can't even afford to live in artsy neighborhoods.
I don't think that article said that hipsters were leaving to NYC for the suburbs as a group, or that the suburbs would become hip at the expense of the city. I seriously doubt that will happen. The article focused on those hipsters who chose to move to Hudson Valley towns. That doesn't mean the majority of them have. The article was just showing how time spend in the city can change people, and after a few years, your needs, in terms of living space, quality of life, etc may change. You may decided to stay here, or you may leave.
Places like Williamsburg and the East Village are revolving doors. Of course plenty of young people are always move there, partially because plenty are always leaving. Many leave after they get their degrees . Others will leave after they finished whatever internship. Some decide to make NYC their permanent home.
Basically, the hip parts of town are Manhattan south of Midtown, , Brooklyn Heights, Williamsburg, and other East River NY neighborhoods, and LI and Astoria. These are the few parts of NYC where you can live the stereotyped NYC lifestyle. The rest of NYC isn't hip, and isn't going to become hip. Yellow taxicabs are rarely seen in upper Manhattan and the outer boroughs (if you do use a taxi you have to call a service).
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The arts scene is not city wide. Most of Queens has no art scene. Ditto for the Bronx. There's a few exceptions. Much of Brooklyn doesn't have an arts scene, either. Areas like Williamsburg and Bushwick do.
Staten Island is not that liberal or progressive. Its pretty Republican. Not that artsy either.
As for a diverse place, a lot of people just work or whatever and come home. Its not like New Yorkers always sample every neighborhood. Again, this is fictionalized image of the city.
Queens is basically suburban and residential, with nothing going on like major nightclubs, theatre, big bands, etc.
Ditto for Staten Island. Parts of Brooklyn are like that, as is the North Bronx. South Bronx, North Central Brooklyn, Northeast Brooklyn is ghetto. Not too much goes on in Upper Manhattan, either. People go to Manhattan south of midtown, Williamsburg, and a few other places to go out and see artsy stuff that doesn't happen in the neighborhoods where they live. Often artists can't even afford to live in artsy neighborhoods.
You are greatly mistaken. There is a thriving arts scene throughout the city. From performing arts, graffiti, Hip Hop, fashion, music. Unfortunately, many of the mentioned areas lack a saturation of venues for such activities.
SI is in no way a conservative place. They vote Repub often, but they would be considered liberal anywhere. The least progressive area in NYC, but much more so then most other places.
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The arts scene is not city wide. Most of Queens has no art scene. Ditto for the Bronx. There's a few exceptions. Much of Brooklyn doesn't have an arts scene, either. Areas like Williamsburg and Bushwick do.
Staten Island is not that liberal or progressive. Its pretty Republican. Not that artsy either.
As for a diverse place, a lot of people just work or whatever and come home. Its not like New Yorkers always sample every neighborhood. Again, this is fictionalized image of the city.
Queens is basically suburban and residential, with nothing going on like major nightclubs, theatre, big bands, etc.
Ditto for Staten Island. Parts of Brooklyn are like that, as is the North Bronx. South Bronx, North Central Brooklyn, Northeast Brooklyn is ghetto. Not too much goes on in Upper Manhattan, either. People go to Manhattan south of midtown, Williamsburg, and a few other places to go out and see artsy stuff that doesn't happen in the neighborhoods where they live. Often artists can't even afford to live in artsy neighborhoods.
Lol, there is art all over NYC from graffiti on subway tunnels, to school murals. Throughout the city. Various forms of music, writing, poetry is art, chinese of flushing have their own art while indians in Jackson heights Queens havr their own which can be worn as an expressive silk sari. Hell there is even art in the subway like mosiacs and on the walls of churchs. But the progressive, expressionst avant garde, jaques christo type art scene is only in much of Manhattan and the creative art scene of Williamsburg, les lic, harlem, and yes even in Mott Haven. Majority of NYers dont care about, realism, impressionism, exprrssionism, post modernism, avant gard movement. I really enjoyed the the Gates in Central Park though.
I think that the staff on the Times deliberately promote certain areas, in part according to where they have invested money in real estate!
Its why I think certain areas get glossed over, while other areas are heavily pushed. The reporters aren't falling asleep, their is a specific agenda here.
The Times is well read by the well off, after all, and can set trends.
Very true. Times makes most of its money from sensationalism and yellow journalism. NYT does not only push real estate, they also push consumerism. NYT helped push apples products into becoming popular, but when Apples stock tanked, now they are looking for a another tech company to makr their products hip and trendy. I really hated when NYT said windows 8 will flop. But when Apples stock begab to tank, their opinion on Microsoft began to change.
Median Home prices:
Hastings: $717,000
11211: $368,000
(detached homes)
That's what it says, but it's either inaccurate or based on a very small sample. Right now there are no detached houses for sale for less than $1M in 11211, and there's exactly one townhouse, $900,000 -- it's a two-family, presumably with a wrecked interior as the listing says "Amazing property for someone looking to construct their dream home. "
You are greatly mistaken. There is a thriving arts scene throughout the city. From performing arts, graffiti, Hip Hop, fashion, music. Unfortunately, many of the mentioned areas lack a saturation of venues for such activities.
SI is in no way a conservative place. They vote Repub often, but they would be considered liberal anywhere. The least progressive area in NYC, but much more so then most other places.
Graffit is not an art scene. its a criminal scene. Fashion is a Manhattan thing (in terms of companies). Music tends to be concentrated in neighborhoods with the best venues, and that means parts of Manhattan and certain parts of Brooklyn disproportionately. Ditto for performing arts as well.
Yes, SI is pretty conservative. Put it like this, it is no liberal or artsy haven.
Graffit is not an art scene. its a criminal scene. Fashion is a Manhattan thing (in terms of companies). Music tends to be concentrated in neighborhoods with the best venues, and that means parts of Manhattan and certain parts of Brooklyn disproportionately. Ditto for performing arts as well.
Yes, SI is pretty conservative. Put it like this, it is no liberal or artsy haven.
"Graffiti = criminal act", YOUR opinion. There are quite a few internationally renowned graffiti artist. Most of which from NYC are from the outer boroughs, especially the Bronx.
Fashion, New Yorkers are pretty fashion forward citywide.
Music is saturated THROUGHOUT NYC. From upcoming Dancehall Reggae artist along White Plains Road, to Dubstep producers in Bushwick, or Rap artist from Harlem. The venues exist citywide, but the biggest concentrations are in neighborhoods like the East Village.
At the same time NYC overall is above and beyond the vast majority of other places in all these aspects. This city bleeds art and creativity. Definitely inspirational in this aspect. It's anti-establishment, anti-conformist, the diversity brings new flavors. The walk ability and vibrancy allows people to become exposed, to network, make social connections.
I suggest you leave NYC for a bit. See just how different it is outside this city.
Graffit is not an art scene. its a criminal scene. Fashion is a Manhattan thing (in terms of companies). Music tends to be concentrated in neighborhoods with the best venues, and that means parts of Manhattan and certain parts of Brooklyn disproportionately. Ditto for performing arts as well.
Yes, SI is pretty conservative. Put it like this, it is no liberal or artsy haven.
Isn't SI conservative because of all the Italian-American Catholics there? I don't understand why so many Italian-A's have left the Democratic party when it's pro-union policies helped immensely to propel them into the middle classes.
"Graffiti = criminal act", YOUR opinion. There are quite a few internationally renowned graffiti artist. Most of which from NYC are from the outer boroughs, especially the Bronx.
Fashion, New Yorkers are pretty fashion forward citywide.
Music is saturated THROUGHOUT NYC. From upcoming Dancehall Reggae artist along White Plains Road, to Dubstep producers in Bushwick, or Rap artist from Harlem. The venues exist citywide, but the biggest concentrations are in neighborhoods like the East Village.
At the same time NYC overall is above and beyond the vast majority of other places in all these aspects. This city bleeds art and creativity. Definitely inspirational in this aspect. It's anti-establishment, anti-conformist, the diversity brings new flavors. The walk ability and vibrancy allows people to become exposed, to network, make social connections.
I suggest you leave NYC for a bit. See just how different it is outside this city.
Hmmm, where have I lived outside of NYC. Southern California, Chicago, upstate New York, Alabama, Georgia, and Paraguay.
I've spent a considerable part of my life outside NYC.
As for the Fashion industry, that is located in a small part of Manhattan. Wearing a cool leather jacket has NOTHING to do with the fashion industry. There is no sizable fashion industry in the outer boroughs. Art and creativity in most of the city? That is absolutely NONSENSE.
As far as money making artist goes, they tend to be affluent and well educated. Artists are not ghetto kids who vandalize buildings, or unemployed, untrained people who claim to be actors or singers.
Any art scene in NYC is concentrated in just a few areas.
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