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Old 04-06-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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haha what a joke, i knoe some illegals in nyc and they make over $15 an hour, who would work for $3? that would put them into worse poverty than in their home countries, think before you say something stupid.
you must know some well paid illegals. I personally know low paid illegals. I believe you are ignorant
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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you must know some well paid illegals. I personally know low paid illegals. I believe you are ignorant
Illegals still have to rent rooms, get transportation, by food, pay bills,etc. A lot of illegals work in the service sector, restaurants, massage parlors, and other types of places where they can get TIPS, particularly cash ones.

I've known immigrant bus boys to make $15 an hour or more, ditto for barbacks. The ladies working in the massage parlors get more. So do the ones who do hair.

$3 an hour on a 40 hour work week is $480 a month.

Its totally not possible to even rent a room under those conditions. You could stuff 20 people in a basement with so little money, but I would hope there's no fire due to overcrowding. People have died under those conditions.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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I worked in banking for three years. Recruiters were extremely picky about what types of jobs you had on your resume. They did not want to see food service jobs on there, in fact the dining hall jobs I had on my resume they made me take them off before they would send said resume to their clients.

That's the real world, where people don't give a flying fig about how hard working you are. Aside from having worked in dining halls when I was a student, I did have internships at Disney/ABC News. Corporate recruiters loved that.

There are certain jobs that look good on your resume, and others that look horrible.

As for fast food jobs, those jobs are often the first jobs people get, and in the low end service business, people would rather hire someone with no work history who is desperate for money and would be more likely to stay on the job, rather than someone like me who has had much better experience and who will quit the instant a better opportunity arises. In fact, the low end service job would have extremely poor judgement if they were to hire me.

For instance, loading trucks. Why would an Ivy League grad take such a position, and obviously if I were to take it ,I have no intentions of staying there long. At times I've had a VIP lifestyle, so could someone like me really deal with manual work long term?

The answer is no.
I don't think you live in the real world.

What kind of employer would want someone who thinks like this?
"rather than someone like me who has had much better experience and who will quit the instant a better opportunity arises"

"At times I've had a VIP lifestyle, so could someone like me really deal with manual work long term?"

Most employers prefer loyalty along with capability and the determination to work hard. You seem to portray the complete opposite.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:17 AM
 
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I worked in banking for three years. Recruiters were extremely picky about what types of jobs you had on your resume. They did not want to see food service jobs on there, in fact the dining hall jobs I had on my resume they made me take them off before they would send said resume to their clients.

That's the real world, where people don't give a flying fig about how hard working you are. Aside from having worked in dining halls when I was a student, I did have internships at Disney/ABC News. Corporate recruiters loved that.

There are certain jobs that look good on your resume, and others that look horrible.

As for fast food jobs, those jobs are often the first jobs people get, and in the low end service business, people would rather hire someone with no work history who is desperate for money and would be more likely to stay on the job, rather than someone like me who has had much better experience and who will quit the instant a better opportunity arises. In fact, the low end service job would have extremely poor judgement if they were to hire me.

For instance, loading trucks. Why would an Ivy League grad take such a position, and obviously if I were to take it ,I have no intentions of staying there long. At times I've had a VIP lifestyle, so could someone like me really deal with manual work long term?

The answer is no.
This is true. A long time ago I worked for a recruiter rewriting resumes. They would never send out a resume to a corporate client with fast food/heavy labor on it. For lower-level admin jobs, they'd regularly want to take off higher education such as masters, and jobs above the admin level, because employers would have less interest in someone that they thought would be more likely to leave for something better.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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you must know some well paid illegals. I personally know low paid illegals. I believe you are ignorant
just construction work
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:36 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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Illegals still have to rent rooms, get transportation, by food, pay bills,etc. A lot of illegals work in the service sector, restaurants, massage parlors, and other types of places where they can get TIPS, particularly cash ones.

I've known immigrant bus boys to make $15 an hour or more, ditto for barbacks. The ladies working in the massage parlors get more. So do the ones who do hair.

$3 an hour on a 40 hour work week is $480 a month.

Its totally not possible to even rent a room under those conditions. You could stuff 20 people in a basement with so little money, but I would hope there's no fire due to overcrowding. People have died under those conditions.
Of course everyone has bills. My whole point is that there are plenty of people who make less than minimum wage in nyc. Do all illegals makes less than minimum wage? of course not. Its just one of those dirty little secrets that people shove underneath the rug.

It been well documented how some industries such as restaurants (the most notorious) has made headlines about paying under the minimum wage. Other infamous examples are the day laborers hanging out at home depots, those rates can be pretty much closing on minimum wage or less.
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