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best post I have seen on CD in a while. These folks do think they are superior to others and use this system to push people out.
Do you know what a free market is? supply and demand? Nobody is entitled to live anywhere. A neighborhood becomes desirable, demand goes up, people bid up the rent, and those who can't afford them, move to a cheaper neighborhood. the fact is that neighborhoods change.
The people who root for gentrification tend to be the people who benefit from it (or hope to). They take it for granted that the world should cater to them--i.e. to their needs, desires, interests, tastes, etc. When neighborhoods evolve to better compliment their lifestyles, they are "improving." When neighborhoods are more oriented to the needs and budgets of lower-income groups, they are "in decline."
Except that a lot of the benefits (namely greater safety, more and improved amenities, etc.) are benefits that people across all income levels will overwhelmingly applaud.
Obviously this is a promotional video for a condo development but high-holy-shi*. I might as well take my butt back to the suburbs...and this is coming from a gentrifying, Bed Stuy, condo owner.
In all fairness, I remember seeing similar subway ads for Williamsburg back in 2001. I don't remember the advertiser, but I'm sure it must have been a real estate group. It was a series of images of different types of people: a hipster looking woman with a sleeve tattoo, a Hasidic man, a lily white family, a Hispanic man. Under each image the caption read "Williamsburg?"
Obviously this is a promotional video for a condo development but high-holy-shi*. I might as well take my butt back to the suburbs...and this is coming from a gentrifying, Bed Stuy, condo owner.
In all fairness, I remember seeing similar subway ads for Williamsburg back in 2001. I don't remember the advertiser, but I'm sure it must have been a real estate group. It was a series of images of different types of people: a hipster looking woman with a sleeve tattoo, a Hasidic man, a lily white family, a Hispanic man. Under each image the caption read "Williamsburg?"
The pretentiousness is enough to make you vomit... And the video focused mainly on the Clinton Hill border of the Stuy... Clearly a video with an angle. @ jad2k, when you look back at your neighborhood and no longer see any black faces like yours, I hope you take the time to understand that you were a big part of that. Congrats.
The pretentiousness is enough to make you vomit... And the video focused mainly on the Clinton Hill border of the Stuy... Clearly a video with an angle. @ jad2k, when you look back at your neighborhood and no longer see any black faces like yours, I hope you take the time to understand that you were a big part of that. Congrats.
The company promoting the video has a new development on Dekalb near Marcus Garvey. That's why they focused on the business around the northern and eastern part of Bed Stuy. It's what's closest to that condo. But yeah, even I rolled my eyes so hard they almost got stuck upside down.
You are aware that gentrification is about economics, not color. About 40-50% of the owners in my building are "black faces like mine". The others are white faces like my boyfriend. Also, I think Bed Stuy will eventually settle along the lines of a Ft Greene or Clinton Hill where there is a mix of colors but probably not a huge mix of incomes (unless you factor in the projects.). Keep in mind there are a lot of black gentrifiers, it's just that white people can't tell the difference between us and original residents.
The company promoting the video has a new development on Dekalb near Marcus Garvey. That's why they focused on the business around the northern and eastern part of Bed Stuy. It's what's closest to that condo. But yeah, even I rolled my eyes so hard they almost got stuck upside down.
You are aware that gentrification is about economics, not color. About 40-50% of the owners in my building are "black faces like mine". The others are white faces like my boyfriend. Also, I think Bed Stuy will eventually settle along the lines of a Ft Greene or Clinton Hill where there is a mix of colors but probably not a huge mix of incomes (unless you factor in the projects.). Keep in mind there are a lot of black gentrifiers, it's just that white people can't tell the difference between us and original residents.
We both know that's BS. For the record, I have nothing invested in the neighborhood so I really couldn't care what happens to Bed-stuy as a whole but to say that color doesn't matter is ridiculous. Who are the Jews buying the properties off of, the white folks who have lived in this area for some time or the white newcomers who bought early, or the Black and Hispanic folk that have lived here for years. Even in my middle class neighborhood of Ridgewood, it's going on all the time. I've heard second hand from RE agents I know, about their plans to remove all the Hispanics from the neighborhood. And every single day, you'll see at least two or three Jewish property buyers, talking up another Hispanic owner in the neighborhood convincing them the time to sell is now.
Now color, isn't the only thing; I'll give you that. But to say, it doesn't play a role is incredibly naïve.
Give me a break with the color crap. If you got money saved or income coming in you can buy. So either save your pennies or go study something that makes you worth lending to. Being an oversensitive minority won't get you anything.
I'm pretty sure that in the recent article that I think silverbullcity posted about a 26 year old Hadistic Jewish realestate business man going around buying up property in Brooklyn that he mentions the gentrification is about color. He says people won't rent from their buildings if there is even one person of color in there. However, they go around purchasing property from the depressed areas which doesn't discriminated against color. They've bought property from all kinds of people in poverty. On a side note they also mentioned in that same article that they discriminate for religious reasons when it comes to a property with a fruit tree because their religion says something about you can't cut down a fruit bearing tree.
We both know that's BS. For the record, I have nothing invested in the neighborhood so I really couldn't care what happens to Bed-stuy as a whole but to say that color doesn't matter is ridiculous. Who are the Jews buying the properties off of, the white folks who have lived in this area for some time or the white newcomers who bought early, or the Black and Hispanic folk that have lived here for years. Even in my middle class neighborhood of Ridgewood, it's going on all the time. I've heard second hand from RE agents I know, about their plans to remove all the Hispanics from the neighborhood. And every single day, you'll see at least two or three Jewish property buyers, talking up another Hispanic owner in the neighborhood convincing them the time to sell is now.
Now color, isn't the only thing; I'll give you that. But to say, it doesn't play a role is incredibly naïve.
No it is not BS. Me, and many others, have written about how it's an economic situation. White people tend to have more money than blacks in this country so you tend to see gentrification play out along color lines. However, in all cases regardless of race, if one has $2.5M cash to buy a brownstone, one has $2.5M cash to buy a brownstone. Yes, there may still be housing discrimination, racist real estate agents, and racist home owners, but when you get to the point of being able to afford seven figure properties, it is less of an issue. The only place where I can see racial discrimination being a major factor with gentrification is if the properties are co-ops. That is not the case in most gentrifying neighborhoods.
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