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Can anyone say whether this area (see below) is North Shore? I thought I'd be safe by sticking with zip codes in terms of figuring out North vs. South.
The part of Staten Island south of the Expressway is very different, speaking generally. The Wu-tang clan was from Stapleton and surrounding areas. So there are more poor and rough areas. (There are some nice areas tho dotted around.) Most of the south is totally safe. The odds of getting robbed walking down the street in the middle of the night are very small. So trying to draw a parallel in terms of crime is a complete joke. Many of the south shore locals can be rough around the edges, because they are mostly Brooklyn transplants, but they are not criminals. The south is mostly Italian, Irish, Russian and some Jews. The north is much more black and hispanic.
While yes, you do see some people driving BMW's who shouldn't, I think that's more the result of bad money priorities than necessarily crime.
I wouldn't call the South Shore actual wealth, it's more like new money. Like ErnieG mentioned it's mostly city workers living in McMansions driving BMWs.
I have lived in the South Shore for the past 35 years.........lots of money, and it is not from the NYPD or FYPD. It is more from business owners, and the Russians........lots of them have come here with lots of money, and professionals......
Well, according to wiki part of Todt Hill would be considered mid island. What we need to do then is consider the "East Shore" of the Island as well. People typically want to know North vs. South and they'll miss out. See my examples below. There is just as much wealth in the North Shore that can be found on the South Shore. Not all areas of the South Shore are that great. Tottenville and Great Kills isn't.
Under the definition most commonly adhered to, Mid-Island comprises all of the communities whose ZIP Code is 10314, plus Sunnyside within zip code 10301, along with the western slope of Todt Hill. Mid-Island communities thus include Graniteville, Bulls Head, Willowbrook, and New Springville, Sometimes the localities situated along the Arthur Kill between the Staten Island Expressway and the Fresh Kills — Bloomfield, Chelsea and Travis — are said to be on the island's West Shore; otherwise they too would fall within Mid-Island as their zip code is 10314.
When I speak of wealth, I'm considering property. Example:
The South Richmond Project entails most property from Richmond Avenue to Tottenville......that is a special area with special zonings, in several places. Great Kills is not part of the SRP, because it is above Richmond Avenue.
One of the most wealthy zip codes is the 10312....... but BELOW Richmond Avenue, which takes into consideration SOUTH EAST ANNADALE, HUGHENOT, PLEASANT PLAINS, PRINCESS BAY, and TOTTENVILLE, with homes in the millions of dollars........
SOUTH EAST ANNADALE has special zonings in different places. From Amboy Road down to the ocean, there are several areas that have RESINDENTIAL ONE ZONINGS, for one-family housing, and mother-and-daughters ONLY. The area around THE BLUE HERON PARK it is also very expensive. Therefore, many areas are NOT zoned for two-family housing. Take a ride to NICOLISI DRIVE, in South East Annadale, below Hylan Boulevard, if you want to see homes costing 3, 4, million dollars........ and more.
I wouldn't call the South Shore actual wealth, it's more like new money. Like ErnieG mentioned it's mostly city workers living in McMansions driving BMWs.
IIRC the City was going to go big with down-zoning many parts of Staten Island. Think it was under Rudy G's administrations (pay back to those who put him in office?). However the real estate interests and perhaps some connected local politicians (are you listening Molinari family?) put the kibosh on the move.
Long story short lawsuits were threatened on both local and federal level that rezoning large parts of Staten Island would have all sorts of "discriminatory" effects/impacts and deprive persons seeking to purchase homes of their "American Dream".
The Rock back in the 1980's still had plenty of un or under developed land and as such was the great final frontier in NYC. The rest as they say is history. Staten Islanders concerned about density and urban sprawl had to live with a more nuanced down-zoning plan that dealt with things on more of a block by block basis.
Sad thing is one of the areas that quickly developed was south of Hylan Blvd an area mostly of wetlands, marshes and beaches. Can well remember when Staten Island Hospital moved out to "Ocean Breeze" pretty much nothing was out there. Back in the late 1990's went to see a family member at that hospital and couldn't believe how much it had been built up since.
When Tropical Storm Sandy hit every single warning many had been saying before all those homes were built came true. Locals know the deal "never buy south of Hylan Blvd), and that was for a good reason, the area floods even during a weak storm. So now the City and federal government are paying millions for persons homes to make them "whole" because they shouldn't have been living there in the first place. Many of those homeowners were transplants/recent arrivals to The Rock lured by "cheap" housing the area offered. Well there was a reason for that.....
When I first moved to Staten Island in 1960, the first thing I heard was not to buy below the Boulevard, but
it only mentioned from The South Beach Area to Richmond Avenue. Very, very little damage happened to people living BELOW THE RICHMOND AVENUE AREA..........which encompassed the South Richmond Project, when SUPER SANDY hit.
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