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Old 05-20-2015, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Not this again.

Conservatives who like to tout the "failed" liberal cities like Detroit, always gloss over the fact that the greatest and richest cities in the world are all "liberal". New York, London anyone? What do conservatives have? Oklahoma City?

The liberal cities on this list are generally much wealthier than the conservative ones.


The 10 most conservative (and liberal) cities in America - Salon.com

Liberal places are also centers of innovation. There is exactly 1 billionaire between all of those conservative cities and about 300 in the liberal column. There are about 290 Fortune 500 companies in the liberal column and only 8 in the conservative column. Innovation by liberals is the reason the United States is the most competitive country in the world. Without things like NYC, Silicon Valley, Hollywood & the arts, the United States would be an oversized trailer park and would have no global appeal.
Some of those liberal cities on the list are in big trouble and in decline such as Baltimore, Detroit and Oakland. Oakland is so bad that sports teams are packing up and leaving. Detroit is bankrupt and Baltimore has waves and waves of inequality. Buffalo along with upstate NY is in big trouble due to lack of jobs and deindustrialization
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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What has De blasio accomplished so far?

Higher salaries for city employees that will eventually increase pension payouts

Increased funding of homeless services, education, mental health with little funding cuts to other programs.

Increase in racial tension and more crime.

Somehow the city is projected to have a budget deficit next fiscal year after years of surplus.

De Blasio is a sleezbag making good on political promises. He'll eventually leave NYC with a lump of coal.
As a city worker I take offense to that. The salary increase was modest to the already low wages city workers earn. A higher salary that keeps pace with inflation. What job do you do where u expect to be paid the same salary for 7 plus years? There were also concessions made with increases in medical contributions and a worse pension tier for new employees.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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As a city worker I take offense to that. The salary increase was modest to the already low wages city workers earn. A higher salary that keeps pace with inflation. What job do you do where u expect to be paid the same salary for 7 plus years? There were also concessions made with increases in medical contributions and a worse pension tier for new employees.
De Blasio has been just okay but there is a huge active right-wing propaganda assault being launched on him. Look at the Daily News cover today, even they are getting involved. He's gonna have a tough battle ahead for re-election.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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De Blasio has been just okay but there is a huge active right-wing propaganda assault being launched on him. Look at the Daily News cover today, even they are getting involved. He's gonna have a tough battle ahead for re-election.
Just dish back some money for income tax payers and I might consider voting for him. My vote has a price just like everyone else's vote that he paid for with my money.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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The projects are outdated, this is just delaying the inevitable destruction of these buildings
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:31 AM
 
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As a city worker I take offense to that. The salary increase was modest to the already low wages city workers earn. A higher salary that keeps pace with inflation. What job do you do where u expect to be paid the same salary for 7 plus years? There were also concessions made with increases in medical contributions and a worse pension tier for new employees.
City employees could have left to find better paying jobs knowing increases in city government don't come very often. The City employees that stayed tend to be less competitive. Giving less competitive employees raises doesn't benefit the city as most pensioned city employees would have stayed within the city government anyways.

De blasio is essentially trying to buy votes.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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City employees could have left to find better paying jobs knowing increases in city government don't come very often. The City employees that stayed tend to be less competitive. Giving less competitive employees raises doesn't benefit the city as most pensioned city employees would have stayed within the city government anyways.

De blasio is essentially trying to buy votes.
You're assuming everyone works for the highest payer. A career is more than just money, especially for families. Otherwise everyone would be working on Wall Street. There are other factors as well such as work/life balance, job fulfilment, work environment, benefits,commute, job security, etc.

You're also assuming city workers are less competitive. Try getting a city job now, it's not that easy. Regardless, the raises were modest and keep up with inflation. There were also concessions made with the medical plans and pension system which you didn't even know. Its easy for outsiders to just make a point about salary increases because you don't see.the whole picture. What job out there doesn't have pay increases for 7 years? How about you do the same work for 7 years with no chance of an increase? Everything else goes up (rent, food, goods,etc) except your pay.
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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You're assuming everyone works for the highest payer. A career is more than just money, especially for families. Otherwise everyone would be working on Wall Street. There are other factors as well such as work/life balance, job fulfilment, work environment, benefits,commute, job security, etc.

You're also assuming city workers are less competitive. Try getting a city job now, it's not that easy. Regardless, the raises were modest and keep up with inflation. There were also concessions made with the medical plans and pension system which you didn't even know. Its easy for outsiders to just make a point about salary increases because you don't see.the whole picture. What job out there doesn't have pay increases for 7 years? How about you do the same work for 7 years with no chance of an increase? Everything else goes up (rent, food, goods,etc) except your pay.
He may very welk have done the same work for 7 years with no raise. The people who hate city workers the most are working class people with little education or money. They hate city workers because they have stable jobs with benefits, vacation, etc.

Keep in mind many of these right wing posters do not live and have never been to NY.
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Yeah right on the parking space. Paying market rate for a lot with heavy foot traffic from criminals? Not worth it. Do you know how many shattered car windows I've seen on NYCHA lots? It's completely criminal. Vandalism is insane especially throughout the Summer. My relative had her car vandalized 5 times last year. If anyone outside of NYCHA residents is willing to park there, they are a complete idiot.
I would think with some of these new revenue sources that they would allocate some money for security cameras, or lot attendants, etc. But NYCHA is a boondoggle and a huge bureaucratic nightmare, so who knows...
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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You're assuming everyone works for the highest payer. A career is more than just money, especially for families. Otherwise everyone would be working on Wall Street. There are other factors as well such as work/life balance, job fulfilment, work environment, benefits,commute, job security, etc.

You're also assuming city workers are less competitive. Try getting a city job now, it's not that easy. Regardless, the raises were modest and keep up with inflation. There were also concessions made with the medical plans and pension system which you didn't even know. Its easy for outsiders to just make a point about salary increases because you don't see.the whole picture. What job out there doesn't have pay increases for 7 years? How about you do the same work for 7 years with no chance of an increase? Everything else goes up (rent, food, goods,etc) except your pay.
The price of anything is determined by supply and demand and that includes human capital. In case you haven't heard, wage growth for most has been close to zero. The pay raise for city employees doesn't accomplish much and is a waste of money. There is no rule in the book of life that guarantees your salary will keep up with inflation. The progressive tax is a more effective way in dealing with the wage gap. De blasio's vote gathering tactics will leave NYC with less money and more crime. Seems like his tactics have worked on some.
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