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Old 05-19-2015, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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By MIREYA NAVARRO MAY 18, 2015

Mayor Bill de Blasio is expected to announce on Tuesday an aggressive plan to shore up New York City’s deteriorating public housing, calling for significant new financial help from the city and for squeezing more revenue out of the housing projects and their residents.
The plan includes several measures that could prove contentious, starting with a modified version of a stalled proposal to lease unused land in housing projects for private residential development. The city would also transfer hundreds of New York City Housing Authority employees to other city agencies, charge residents more for parking and try to increase the rate of rent collection.
Administration officials said drastic moves were needed to deal with chronic budget deficits and worsening disrepair among about 178,000 apartments that house more than 400,000 New Yorkers. The Housing Authority has an operating deficit of $98 million this year and building maintenance needs totaling $16 billion, threatening the survival of the city’s single largest affordable housing stock.

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Old 05-19-2015, 04:06 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Why keep throwing good money at bad buildings? You wouldn't spend $5000 to fix a $300 clunker?

Build new buildings (with ground floor retail) on the parking/open lots surrounding many of these projects. Move the current residents into the new buildings, then demolish the old ones. Keep repeating until they're all replaced.

This way, no one gets displaced. Everyone gets to live in better, safer, healthier new digs. NYCHA/City doesn't need to spend so much on maintenance and repair. More housing units added. Everyone is happy.
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Old 05-19-2015, 04:08 AM
 
Location: NYPD"s 30th Precinct
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Good.

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In a decision likely to prompt a backlash from residents, the agency will begin charging more for parking spaces, which currently go for about $300 a year — an amount that in some neighborhoods would be the cost for one month. Current tenants, who will be offered the spaces first, will be charged up to $150 a month. Any unclaimed spots will then be offered to the public at market rates.[/b]


“Parking is an amenity that we can no longer afford,” Ms. Olatoye said.
Especially this. A parking space is not a requirement. Most New Yorkers either go without them or pay high prices for one. Time to join the rest of us.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Parking at $150 per month in many areas of the city is a good to great rate. So no one should complain.

The overall plan seems like a solid plan although I'm more inclined to think that the big pj's should be blown up. They've been a massive failure and just keep people in a cycle of poverty and crime.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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The offering of parking spots to residents in these buildings at anything other than market rate really rubs me the wrong way. There is just no logical argument for this.

I love the one lady's comment - we have tons of money and the buildings are in disrepair" Maybe she missed the $100m annual deficit and $16bn of repairs needed.

Also, it must be lovely to be a city employee. Oh, the business you support either doesn't need you or can't afford you anymore? It's okay, we'll just transfer you to another business line that probably doesn't need you either, but can absorb the cost better.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Aliante
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Why keep throwing good money at bad buildings? You wouldn't spend $5000 to fix a $300 clunker?

Build new buildings (with ground floor retail) on the parking/open lots surrounding many of these projects. Move the current residents into the new buildings, then demolish the old ones. Keep repeating until they're all replaced.

This way, no one gets displaced. Everyone gets to live in better, safer, healthier new digs. NYCHA/City doesn't need to spend so much on maintenance and repair. More housing units added. Everyone is happy.
It does look like they're going to build new housing in Brooklyn and the Bronx over time and demolish some of the structures that are in severe disrepair. The other aggressive reforms proposed seemed to have not gone over well in the past, but if it's been a neglected dinosaur it may be time.
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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Parking at $150 per month in many areas of the city is a good to great rate. So no one should complain.

The overall plan seems like a solid plan although I'm more inclined to think that the big pj's should be blown up. They've been a massive failure and just keep people in a cycle of poverty and crime.
If they blew the housing projects up they would need to resettle them. Chicago resettled its housing project residents in working class suburbs that became new ghettoes.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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If they blew the housing projects up they would need to resettle them. Chicago resettled its housing project residents in working class suburbs that became new ghettoes.
Chicago's PJ situation was actually much worse because of the more intense crime and gang issues however I never once said to copy the Chicago model. My thinking was more smaller buildings.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Yeah right on the parking space. Paying market rate for a lot with heavy foot traffic from criminals? Not worth it. Do you know how many shattered car windows I've seen on NYCHA lots? It's completely criminal. Vandalism is insane especially throughout the Summer. My relative had her car vandalized 5 times last year. If anyone outside of NYCHA residents is willing to park there, they are a complete idiot.
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Something drastic needs to be done. It's ironic that the redevelopment plan that the mayor criticized when it was proposed by Bloomberg is now pretty much the best option.

These buildings are within a decade of becoming uninhabitable if they aren't repaired.
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