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I actually had to leave college to learn anything deep on the topic of history. The classes were just wasting my time. There is more real history sitting on my nightstand right now (5 books), than anything taught in you typical liberal arts college in pursuit of their nonsense bachelor degrees.
Where my flip-flops at ? Need to go to the White House.
Again ... it was actually PC that lowered standards and created this orientation.
Which is a reason the world is in the shape it is.
Lol I'm no way a bigot and I also embrace Judiaism, I also have a Hebrew name and I have Israeli friends. I'm just telling you like it is. Its not fun being a pot of honey while you have a whole bunch of angry hornets or wasps trying to kill your tiny hive.
Come say that crap in a Russian Jewish neighborhood and see how far it takes you
Wrong. Early Islam was quite tolerant of Jews and Muslims, referring to them as "the people of the book" and allowing them to pursue their own religious beliefs as long as it involved the monotheistic God. Your statement is simply and fundamentally contrary to fact. You might consider looking into history, for example, the Crusades ... It is you who are definitely not a student of history except perhaps some sort of internet thing or feel-good baloney.
To this day, "normal" Islam - non-radical and/or non-fundamentalist Islam - has a tolerance perspective and will not necessarily discourage, for example, Muslim women from marrying outside Islam.
I cant say they were quite tolerant. Jizya tax was no joke though. However the tax was far cheaper than the Byzantine Greeks former rulers of Middle East who imposed high taxes on their subjects. Folks preferred Islamic rule over Greek/Roman rule due to lower tax rate. Early Islam did war with the Greek speaking Roman or Eastern Empire which was Christian, and also warred with the Zoroastrian Persian Empire. Islam as a whole has been tolerant of others in times of peace, but in times of war tolerance goes out the window.
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I find this extremely worrisome.
Moner Mohammad Abusalha, the first - and so far, only - American to carry out a suicide bomb attack in Syria, returned to his home in Florida between the time he first traveled to Syria to train with an al-Qaeda offshoot and the day
Syrian civil war is reminisnt of the Spanish Civil War. Its officially a proxy war now between allies. The West, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE VS Russia, North Korea, Syrian regime, Iran and China. US Turkey Israel, Saudis Qatar support Al Qaeda, and the Free Syrian army, while Russia, Iran, Syria, and even China supports the Syrian regime. Private donors are supporting Isis. Russia showed off its power recently, while America, Israel and the rest of the west thought Russia was broken and in shambles, soviet equipment was obsolete.
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You say islam doesn't have a long history of warring with the West??? Only since 632 AD when it was founded. Quite a long time no matter how one looks at it. You can watch all the films you want, and blame a JV team called ISIS, but the true culprit and enemy is islam. Everything else is just an excuse.
Islam mostly war with each other, this is known as the Sunni/shia divide or schism. Islam only warred with the west during the conquest period when it conquered Spain from the German tribes, and warred with the Greek Eastern Roman Empire. The German tribes of Gaul called the Franks checked the Muslims, and the Greek speaking Romans checked the muslims in the siege of Constantinople. Only in in Spain war raged between Christians and Muslims. The Turks waged war against the Greek speaking Romans at the battle of Manzikurt, a huge blow for the Greeks. The emperor of the Greeks asked the pope for help and the pope called on a crusade which saw countless number of French, Italian and German men go on a killing spree. The last major conflicts between the West and Islam were Spanish naval engagement off the coast of Greece which checked Ottoman, and the siege of Vienna which also checked the Ottomans again. The Western World dominates for the next 500 years. Other events checked Islamic power such as the Mongols which destroyed Baghdad and it never recovered until Saddam came to power.
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Do you know what the jizya is my progressive little lamb?
Right, Islam adores Christians and Jews.
As far as the Crusades lol, you do realize they were a response to Muslim aggression correct?
Listen, you can try all day with me but you can't win. You are a liberal fool, and when the time comes all your jumping up and down about how you love diversity and Islam is a religion of peace and blah blah will not protect you. People like you are weak and you are exactly the type that will die on your knees while real men like me will live or die on our feet.
Didn't your dear leader Obama earlier in the day Friday declare Isis contained? Yea, on ABC to that other liberal douchebag Staphanopoulos...contained huh? You ain't seen nothing yet. Lol, delusional isn't the word.
Again, play your game with me but everyone sees through you.
I don't see Islam as the threat. Islam historically has been very secular and made plenty of advances in medicine and the sciences which are beneficially for todays modern world. Why these attacks are happening? First off migrants and immigrants from these regions are not used to openness and free speech, some come from countries where regimes are autocratic, such as those in Middle East, Russia, and Africa where anything said can mean death, regardless of secular or theist state. Than you have alienation, economic situation in Europe except for Germany, marginalization, inequality and so forth that can make person unhappy and look for a greater calling. Lets not forget that countries like France used to rule a great portion of North, West Africa and also controlled Syria after ww1. France seeped these countries economically while the colonies got nothing in return except for exploitation. Sad thing is that North Africa and West Africa are economically still tied to the French National Bank.
Europe needs to do the following. Round up the migrants, and see which countries globally want Syrian migrants, they can not take in all those migrants. Also Muslims in Europe don't assimilate quickly into society compared to USA, Canada and Latin America.
As for Isis? America is not worried about Isis, but is worried about Russia. Syria and Iraq has now turned into a proxy war which can hot and nuclear with Russia at any moment If an American, Israeli or Turkish fighter jet shoot down a Russian fighter war will turn hot. Isis only damage it can do now is physiological damage on the mind which is just as bad as economic and physical destruction during war. I just hope Russia and Putin can blast Isis back into the stone age. The US on the other hand needs to stop supporting Jihadist groups which turn up against us. In matter of fact. The attacks of 9/11 and the US invasion of Afghanistan was designed so that the US can come into conflict with Russian Sphere of influence and China which border Afghanistan. Because of America war on terror, this will force Russia and China hand to militarize.
Back to the topic. What does this mean for NYC and America? 9/11 Jihadist attacked institutions of power, Wall Street and DC. They did not attack south power targets like schools, transit hubs, stadiums etc. Isis is very different from Al Qaeda, to the point where both groups are officially at war with each other. NYC and other major cities now have to worry about multiple threats from different groups who have their own agenda and different methods of attacking targets. All we have to do is try to be vigilant.
Wasn't 'nuttin. Sometimes the truth can speak for itself easily.
Notice the lack of "definitive response"? Exactly.
I highly doubt she has even heard of the Battle of Tours or any of the other battles Europeans had to fight on their own soil to repel Muslim savages in the middle ages. College "educated" know-it-alls are only familiar with The Crusades because those campaigns are all that the disease of liberalism allows to be taught (ie, white Christian aggression).
I actually had to leave college to learn anything deep on the topic of history. The classes were just wasting my time. There is more real history sitting on my nightstand right now (5 books), than anything taught in you typical liberal arts college in pursuit of their nonsense bachelor degrees.
I will go to you next time when someone messes with me on history issues...
Speaking of PC, "progressives" like Bollinger at columbia and other prestigious US institutes are pushing it hard into the view and value books of current generation of students so you can only expect it to be deeply rooted into the culture system here in future.
When you stop and think about it, NYC has been pretty lucky so far. Not much in the way of terrorist activity.
I'm one of those people who think 9/11 was probably an inside job, of some sort, so I don't count that. But otherwise, not much has happened.
Anyone remember the bomb at Laguardia airport back in the 70s? Supposedly planted by some Puerto Rican separatists. It killed a bunch of people. I would have been standing right there and would be dead right now, but for the fact that I changed my plane reservation for a dental appointment. I think there was another incident when someone planted a small bomb outside an Aeroflot office on Fifth Ave. That was all years ago.
The countries hating Israel are stupid. You don't have Israelis going to other countries blowing up stuff. The Israelis were able to construct a decent civil society.
Mind you the Arab societies were better off when they had socialist dictators in charge like Hussein, Assad, and Gaddafi that simply had the Arab jihadists SHOT! The socialist dictators were more modern than jihadists who want to go back to the stone age. It was a mistake to remove these people from power. In fact for all I care in the early 90s they could have let Hussein keep Kuwait. The Bushes screwed us over with two Iraq wars, and then there was the stupid project to bring peace to the middle east under the Obama administration.
Come to think of it, the French did a lot of work in getting rid of socialist dictator Gaffafi, and now they have to deal with murderous zealots.
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