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Riverdale is like Brooklyn Heights. it isn't the real bronx. it's folks are either wannabe upper west siders or wannabe residents of larchmont or mamaroneck. they vote for democrats out of guilt but are otherwise republican in their predjudices, etc. pelham parkway has always remained relatively safe and affluent. marble hill, which some even consider to be the northernmost section of manhattan instead of the bronx, is a potential gentrification area. it's got big, victorian houses that have been split up into apartments, but it's directly on the #1 train and the inwood , west harlem, and washington heights area consists of mostly immigrants and their children, as opposed to welfare folks, so the train ride down isn't nearly as menacing as the taking the #2 or #5 through the south bronx. Other than this, the Bronx, especially the North Bronx, is essentially a suburb or even a hick town, in a geographically urban area. Express busses to Manhattan don't seem to want to operate 24 hours a day, probably for financial reasons. Unless there are super-adventurous urban pioneers who are not frightened by traveling through and hanging out in super high crime rate areas, the only folks who will relocate and gentrify there are those who are willing to drive cars, just as suburbanites do. with this, a trip downtown is so utterly draining that most folks just give up and hang out in westchester or jersey and/or watch videos at night.
LMAO this was funny
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Yes, Riverdale isn't a ghetto like most of the Bronx and has always been upper class, with various wealthy families like the Kennedys living there. However, Manhattanites have been moving to Riverdale since it was developed (it was developed specifically for the wealthy as an escape from Manhattan, hence the numerous estates that still exist in the neighborhood), so the fact that people from the Upper East and Upper West Side and other areas of Manhattan move there is nothing new. Some do it to raise families and have more space and others do it because they want a slower pace of life but still want to be close to Manhattan. Westchester isn't for everyone. Riverdale is a unique mix of urban and suburban. Riverdalians are not wannabe anything. They live in Riverdale and are proud of their community, the same way that people in Woodlawn, City Island and Country Club are proud.
Your other comment about express buses is dumb. I don't think many of them operate 24 hours a day anywhere and if people aren't using them then it's pointless to run them 24/7.
Riverdale is beautiful. In areas you get nice views of the Hudson and in areas you're close to Van Courtlandt Park.
Rodrigo is the gatekeeper for the Bronx. He walks around with a clipboard and a pointer saying, "OK, this is Bronx. This is Bronx. This is... not Bronx!" Then makes a big "X" on his clipboard.
If you are not a Puerto Rican democrat, Rodrigo is on you, false Bronxite!
Then there is this delusional little gem.
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Originally Posted by rodrigo1974
the Bronx, especially the North Bronx, is essentially a suburb or even a hick town,
The Bronx is already gentrifying. The rents are going up and have been substantially. The only question is how much gentrification will occur. Some people like yourself can't accept the idea of the borough not being a big ghetto. There are good neighborhoods there and upper middle class ones too that never went to hell, but of course you won't admit that. Your comment makes no sense either. The poor people would have to go elsewhere or you'll see more homeless people. That is happening too. The Bronx has seen some of the highest rates of eviction in the city. The only reason I can think of for your comment is that you wouldn't have anyone to look down on.
The difference is the type of gentrification happening. Long time Bronx residents are being displaced and are being forced to live further out. Maybe poor parts of NJ or Yonkers. The very dirt poor people will remain in the housing projects.
Not so much Yonkers anymore... Yonkers is going through it's own little gentrfication as well. They are going up to Dutchess and Orange Counties.. Areas near and around Poughkeepsie/Fishkill and Middletown/Monroe/Newburgh areas... Quite a few go out to the Poconos area... Many of the poor blacks move "down south" also.
People trashing the building, breaking things, peeing in the stairwells, smoking in the halls of smoke free buildings, parties in the hallways, people having sex in the laundry room.....I can go on.
People should be respectful of any place they live but to do this to a brand new buildings is horrible. Your lucky enough to live in a brand new building and you turn in into trash. Very disrespectful and sad.
"people having sex in the laundry room".... Well I wouldn't count that. I've done in very nice middle class condos in the suburbs where my old girl used to live! LOLOL
But aside from that - you are correct and it's the bleeding heart politicians fault. They give entitlements people think it's government's job to take care of them while they just trash everything. That's how we got ghetto areas in the 1st place. My poor immigrant minority grandmother and parents found people like that disgusting. They are disgraceful - but sadly many don't know better.
149th in Mott Haven...LOL...LUXURY...oh...that's rich!
Treetop Development is building those... Depends on what you call "luxury"... No one can dispute they build high quality... They said it will be just like their Brooklyn developments.
Also, what's going on with the Kingsbridge Armory? Is anything moving forward?
The loan was included in the budget that just passed for the state. The issue is the city. Deblasio only wants low income housing and homeless shelters in the Bronx. Other than that he's not interested... Plus the BP - Diaz is very friendly with Cuomo - which is why Cuomo keeps funding things like turning the Sheridan Expressway into a boulevard ala the "west side highway". Funding the new Metro North expansion in the East Bronx etc. The Kingsbridge group took Deblasio to court. Now that they got that big loan he has no choice - but he'll keep dragging it out as much as possible.
Guess if the bronx gentrifies it'll be a double edged sword; the "undesirables" not already in a Section 8/rent control will be pushed out, but then you have the issue of long time hard workers getting pushed out.
On the more positive side though, the neighborhoods could become safer and amenities could come to the neighborhoods.
But they have been getting safer... Back in the 70's to the 90's if the Bronx was it's own city it would have been right with Detroit as the most dangerous in the country. Those days are long gone. Major crime is down about 72% from 24 years ago... And still going down.
Now the Bronx is as safe as Boston and is safer than Orlando or San Antonio or San Francisco. Will it go back to prior to the 1960's when it was safer than Manhattan and Brooklyn? Very hard. Back then it was a place people fled to in order to escape the tenements and crime of Manhattan... But since then it's been the place the city loves to force the poor and the homeless (there are proportionally way more shelters than there should be). So even though it's starting to gentrify in the poorer areas - like Brownsville and East NY - there is a built in element the politicians won't let go of...
We are in a big city - so there will always be crime. I mean even in the financial District in the past week there was a slashing in the street and a shooting nearby another day. I'd like to see NY become as safe as Toronto or London... But I can't see how. Different culture in the US... Maybe I'll be proven wrong though.
That would be a good thing.
But they have been getting safer... Back in the 70's to the 90's if the Bronx was it's own city it would have been right with Detroit as the most dangerous in the country. Those days are long gone. Major crime is down about 72% from 24 years ago... And still going down.
Now the Bronx is as safe as Boston and is safer than Orlando or San Antonio or San Francisco. Will it go back to prior to the 1960's when it was safer than Manhattan and Brooklyn? Very hard. Back then it was a place people fled to in order to escape the tenements and crime of Manhattan... But since then it's been the place the city loves to force the poor and the homeless (there are proportionally way more shelters than there should be). So even though it's starting to gentrify in the poorer areas - like Brownsville and East NY - there is a built in element the politicians won't let go of...
We are in a big city - so there will always be crime. I mean even in the financial District in the past week there was a slashing in the street and a shooting nearby another day. I'd like to see NY become as safe as Toronto or London... But I can't see how. Different culture in the US... Maybe I'll be proven wrong though.
That would be a good thing.
149th in Mott Haven...LOL...LUXURY...oh...that's rich!
"luxury" in NYC real estate parlance means each apartment has it's own bath and the building has an elevator.
That's it. Nothing more. Virtually every apartment building with an elevator in the entire city built after 1930 used to have ....or in most cases still has.....a sign ( usually green or red and oval shaped ) on the building that says "Luxury Apartments Available, Inquire Within". If you look closely you will still see them in virtually every neighborhood.
That's it... an elevator and a bath in each apatment.
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