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I usually get more traction over in Hoboken or Jersey City around Grove St. my theory is that half of them around there are really just Jersey girls who wanted to move closer to the city for work or whatever. But for whatever reason I've had better luck on the Jersey side. It's a little more laid back and you get a cleaner crowd without as much of the B&T ghetto garbage that floods into Manhattan on the weekends.
I've seen plenty of men approach women. A lot of guys well flirt with women walking by.
Of course where alcohol and drugs are concerned, no guy cares at all. Or for that matter woman. LOL
Right...I'm talking outside of 'condoned' places where drugs and alcohol are concerned. Those venues are seedy by nature. Of course you're going to find the most wretched hives of scum and villainry. Women complain men hit on them....where? I almost never see it. And how does anyone convey interest if you don't hit on them? We haven't evolved as a species to use telepathy. If anything, we've de-evolved and lost the use of pheromones. Our species has 0 ways in conveying interest other than verbalization and occasionally body language (which is sometimes way too subtle).
I don't know, after 7 years here I'm happy to be moving back to the Midwest. I want a man who appreciates me, doesn't look at me as an 'option'. I'm a human being, not a number on a Chinese takeout menu.
1) Where do you meet these 'men'?
2) Do you ever approach a man yourself?
3) What does 'appreciate' mean? Gifts? Going out to lavish affairs? Or simply want to know you as a human being?
I can tell you with certainty that I'm not like that 100%. Though, I've been considering similar to you (moving Upstate/Midwest for more down-to-earth people).
So either we're both meeting people in the wrong places, or one of us is wrong.
Right...I'm talking outside of 'condoned' places where drugs and alcohol are concerned. Those venues are seedy by nature. Of course you're going to find the most wretched hives of scum and villainry. Women complain men hit on them....where? I almost never see it. And how does anyone convey interest if you don't hit on them? We haven't evolved as a species to use telepathy. If anything, we've de-evolved and lost the use of pheromones. Our species has 0 ways in conveying interest other than verbalization and occasionally body language (which is sometimes way too subtle).
You don't have to be in seedy places. I've had guys follow me, I've had guys try to get me to go into their cars with them, I've had older men who think they're going to be my sugar daddy, etc. Many women have experienced stuff like that and then they kind of get a bit standoffish.
If a guy just started having a normal conversation with me at a bar, I wouldn't be a jerk. I've given guys my number before I was in a LTR/married.
Practically everyone I know that I grew up with, born and raised here, is either married or in a LTR. When I read what you guys are writing, it isn't my reality.
I usually get more traction over in Hoboken or Jersey City around Grove St. my theory is that half of them around there are really just Jersey girls who wanted to move closer to the city for work or whatever. But for whatever reason I've had better luck on the Jersey side. It's a little more laid back and you get a cleaner crowd without as much of the B&T ghetto garbage that floods into Manhattan on the weekends.
Kind of exactly what they said about Downtown San Jose on weekends with classy crowds heading to Los Gatos and Campbell.
Several of these posts sound a bit like the Groucho Marx gag:
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
That is, "I don't want any of the men who are after me."
They say that, until they aren't after them any longer.
Half of us wouldn't even be here today if it weren't for some mild sexual harassment. At least by today's looney-tunes standards of what constitutes it. If you're ugly and annoying it's "harassment". If you're attractive it's "flirting." One of life's many hypocrisies.
I usually get more traction over in Hoboken or Jersey City around Grove St. my theory is that half of them around there are really just Jersey girls who wanted to move closer to the city for work or whatever. But for whatever reason I've had better luck on the Jersey side. It's a little more laid back and you get a cleaner crowd without as much of the B&T ghetto garbage that floods into Manhattan on the weekends.
Most Jersey girls I know rather work somewhere back home because they hate commuting into NYC and have to stand or sit next to unsavory people. Some NJ train lines are infested with unsavory riders.
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