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Old 09-06-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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Yes, and with a last name like “Ribeiro” which is a very popular Portuguese last name, I’d be shocked if he was anything but Brazilian.
Look it up.
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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Seen plenty of celebrities, never bother them. I did see Don King in a Rolls Royce conv with the top down at the height of his prime and I yelled "only in America" and he gave a thumbs up as he drove off.

Funny story recently: I saw Dwayne Wade at a baseball game, he was 5 rows in front of me (sitting in the front row). 1-2 innings go by, nobody bothers him until a couple show up and bounce him out of THEIR seats! He moved a couple seats down and stayed a few more innings.

My buddy was in Palm Beach and had lunch next to Howard Stern. He sent a pic with Howard in the background saying "I guess no radio show today!"
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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Yes, and with a last name like “Ribeiro” which is a very popular Portuguese last name, I’d be shocked if he was anything but Brazilian.
From wiki:
Ribeiro was born in New York City, in the Riverdale neighborhood of The Bronx, to Trinidadian parents, Michael and Joy Ribeiro who are of African and Portuguese descent. His paternal grandfather was Trinidadian calypsonian Lord Hummingbird (Albert Ribeiro).



I'd say you both are right!
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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A hit show it was, but clearly he didn't see his payday if he's working as a cashier.
Am sorry, but once again you don't know what you're talking about.


First and foremost the Cosby Show was nearly 30 years ago. Look around how many so called "stars" or whatever are fabously wealthy or whatever just from the show they did then.


Here are some of the top sitcoms that came out in 1984 and or ran during same period as Cosby Show (1984 until 1992)


Cheers


Night Court


Who's the Boss


Kate and Allie


Family Ties


Now look up main and supporting cast members and tell me who exactly is having or had a "payday" since.


Second of all Mr. Owens was only in 44 episodes of the Cosby show out of a total of 197. "Elvin" was not a starring role in that show, but supporting cast (married to Mr. Cosby's eldest daughter), to it wasn't as if studio suits were going to pay him huge money for a start.


"Elvin" was Mr. Owens first television acting role, do you *really* think the suits were going to lavish him with money? The guy should (and likely was) thankful to have landed the role and that it became reoccurring as Elvin was worked into the show (married the aforementioned eldest Cosby girl).


The first sitcom ensemble actors to really make bank was the cast of Friends.


To give you an idea of how things rolled before and after in terms of salary for actors on sitcoms:


"In their original contracts for the first season, cast members were paid $22,500 per episode.[SIZE=2][23][/SIZE] The cast members received different salaries in the second season, beginning from the $20,000 range to $40,000 per episode.[SIZE=2][23][/SIZE][SIZE=2][24][/SIZE] Before their salary negotiations for the third season, the cast decided to enter collective negotiations, despite Warner Bros.' preference for individual deals. The actors were given the salary of the least-paid cast member, meaning Aniston and Schwimmer had their salaries reduced. The stars were paid $75,000 per episode in season three, $85,000 in season four, $100,000 in season five, $125,000 in season six, $750,000 in seasons seven and eight, and $1 million in seasons nine and ten, making Aniston, Cox, and Kudrow the highest-paid TV actresses of all time. The cast also received syndication royalties beginning in 2000 after renegotiations. At the time, that financial benefit of a piece of the show's lucrative back-end profits had only been given out to stars who had ownership rights in a show, like Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Cosby."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends#Ratings


Cast of Friends got their big paydays several years *after* the Cosby show ended. So it is highly likely Mr. Owens and rest of cast of that program (leaving aside Bill Cosby and maybe a few other senior actors), were getting any where from $15k to $22k per episode, maybe less. Remember most of that cast was made up of unknown young or even child actors.


There were seasons where "Elvin" had only one or two appearances. Others four or maybe six; so even if he was given a huge "payday" say of $50k per episode times six (6) that works out to $300k for a season. Suppose someone who constantly earned that much every year for the past 30 would be wealthy, but that isn't the case for Mr. Owens.


Alfonso Ribeiro and Geoffrey Owens are two different sort of actors. The former is not classically trained nor is especially talented in that direction. He makes his money today mostly as a celebrity guest or host on television programs, game shows and some directing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_Ribeiro
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A lot of models are in the city for NYFW. high-end ones too.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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Last month saw Benicio Del Toro walking by himself downtown at 3am, drunk/stoned or both. Scary lookin mofo in real life.
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:24 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Am sorry, but once again you don't know what you're talking about.


First and foremost the Cosby Show was nearly 30 years ago. Look around how many so called "stars" or whatever are fabously wealthy or whatever just from the show they did then.


Here are some of the top sitcoms that came out in 1984 and or ran during same period as Cosby Show (1984 until 1992)


Cheers


Night Court


Who's the Boss


Kate and Allie


Family Ties


Now look up main and supporting cast members and tell me who exactly is having or had a "payday" since.


Second of all Mr. Owens was only in 44 episodes of the Cosby show out of a total of 197. "Elvin" was not a starring role in that show, but supporting cast (married to Mr. Cosby's eldest daughter), to it wasn't as if studio suits were going to pay him huge money for a start.


"Elvin" was Mr. Owens first television acting role, do you *really* think the suits were going to lavish him with money? The guy should (and likely was) thankful to have landed the role and that it became reoccurring as Elvin was worked into the show (married the aforementioned eldest Cosby girl).


The first sitcom ensemble actors to really make bank was the cast of Friends.


To give you an idea of how things rolled before and after in terms of salary for actors on sitcoms:


"In their original contracts for the first season, cast members were paid $22,500 per episode.[SIZE=2][23][/SIZE] The cast members received different salaries in the second season, beginning from the $20,000 range to $40,000 per episode.[SIZE=2][23][/SIZE][SIZE=2][24][/SIZE] Before their salary negotiations for the third season, the cast decided to enter collective negotiations, despite Warner Bros.' preference for individual deals. The actors were given the salary of the least-paid cast member, meaning Aniston and Schwimmer had their salaries reduced. The stars were paid $75,000 per episode in season three, $85,000 in season four, $100,000 in season five, $125,000 in season six, $750,000 in seasons seven and eight, and $1 million in seasons nine and ten, making Aniston, Cox, and Kudrow the highest-paid TV actresses of all time. The cast also received syndication royalties beginning in 2000 after renegotiations. At the time, that financial benefit of a piece of the show's lucrative back-end profits had only been given out to stars who had ownership rights in a show, like Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Cosby."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends#Ratings


Cast of Friends got their big paydays several years *after* the Cosby show ended. So it is highly likely Mr. Owens and rest of cast of that program (leaving aside Bill Cosby and maybe a few other senior actors), were getting any where from $15k to $22k per episode, maybe less. Remember most of that cast was made up of unknown young or even child actors.


There were seasons where "Elvin" had only one or two appearances. Others four or maybe six; so even if he was given a huge "payday" say of $50k per episode times six (6) that works out to $300k for a season. Suppose someone who constantly earned that much every year for the past 30 would be wealthy, but that isn't the case for Mr. Owens.


Alfonso Ribeiro and Geoffrey Owens are two different sort of actors. The former is not classically trained nor is especially talented in that direction. He makes his money today mostly as a celebrity guest or host on television programs, game shows and some directing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_Ribeiro
Well excuse me for thinking that $22,500@ 40 shows isn’t chump change...
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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Well excuse me for thinking that $22,500@ 40 shows isn’t chump change...

If those 40 episodes were all in one year, then perhaps not. But again that was the entire run for "Elvin" character in TCS. I've already done the sums.....


For instance in the first season that "Elvin" appeared it was only that one episode, period. That means the only money Mr. Owens received from TCS would have been just that. Furthermore any residual checks also are based upon when episodes featuring "Elvin" air.

On balance Alfonso Ribeiro probably made more from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air if only because his character had far more screen time (episodes) than Elvin. Carlton as the only son *and* often the character Will played off was far more integral to that show than Elvin was to the Cosby Show.


Remember the butler (Geoffrey) from FPOBA? He moved back to England and basically isn't living high on the hog either. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the...re-they-now/3/


https://www.caribbean-beat.com/issue-130/joseph-marcel


In fact a whole lot of television "stars" from the 1980's and 1990's are busted: https://www.thewrap.com/broke-stars-...-willie-aames/
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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If those 40 episodes were all in one year, then perhaps not. But again that was the entire run for "Elvin" character in TCS. I've already done the sums.....


For instance in the first season that "Elvin" appeared it was only that one episode, period. That means the only money Mr. Owens received from TCS would have been just that. Furthermore any residual checks also are based upon when episodes featuring "Elvin" air.

On balance Alfonso Ribeiro probably made more from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air if only because his character had far more screen time (episodes) than Elvin. Carlton as the only son *and* often the character Will played off was far more integral to that show than Elvin was to the Cosby Show.


Remember the butler (Geoffrey) from FPOBA? He moved back to England and basically isn't living high on the hog either. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the...re-they-now/3/


https://www.caribbean-beat.com/issue-130/joseph-marcel


In fact a whole lot of television "stars" from the 1980's and 1990's are busted: https://www.thewrap.com/broke-stars-...-willie-aames/
lol@busted...
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Old 09-07-2018, 03:07 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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If those 40 episodes were all in one year, then perhaps not. But again that was the entire run for "Elvin" character in TCS. I've already done the sums.....


For instance in the first season that "Elvin" appeared it was only that one episode, period. That means the only money Mr. Owens received from TCS would have been just that. Furthermore any residual checks also are based upon when episodes featuring "Elvin" air.

On balance Alfonso Ribeiro probably made more from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air if only because his character had far more screen time (episodes) than Elvin. Carlton as the only son *and* often the character Will played off was far more integral to that show than Elvin was to the Cosby Show.


Remember the butler (Geoffrey) from FPOBA? He moved back to England and basically isn't living high on the hog either. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the...re-they-now/3/


https://www.caribbean-beat.com/issue-130/joseph-marcel


In fact a whole lot of television "stars" from the 1980's and 1990's are busted: https://www.thewrap.com/broke-stars-...-willie-aames/
Nicki Minaj giving Cosby Show alum Geoffrey Owens $25K after he's job shamed | Daily Mail Online

Nicki is giving him 25K.
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