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Old 03-02-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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See? It isn't just a problem in the "hood". *LOL*


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Old 03-02-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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I don't think anyone thinks rats are a hood problem only. Its a problem in all of NYC!
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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Yeah, rats are pretty class agnostic.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:32 PM
 
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I don't think anyone thinks rats are a hood problem only. Its a problem in all of NYC!
It is now; but not that long ago rat issues were really only heard about in "hood" areas.


No offense but this was largely due to the (often) practices related to garbage and other things in such areas. Things like people throwing trash out of their apartment windows, buildings not being kept clean and whatever. Two things changed all this, and made more of NYC a rat heaven.


First was when the city banned buildings from burning trash (incinerators) back in the 1970's. Next salvo came in same decade when city also began to allow trash to be put out in plastic bags instead of requiring metal/rodent proof cans with tight fitting lids. It has been off to the races for rats ever since.....


https://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/25/n...at-patrol.html


I never saw a rat until started going into Manhattan. On SI we had muskrats, opossums, raccoons, etc.. but no rats. Am not saying they weren't out there, but at least I nor any of my schoolmates heard about/saw them. Now Todt Hill project is apparently infested or whatever has rats.



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Old 03-02-2019, 06:38 PM
 
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I don't think anyone thinks rats are a hood problem only. Its a problem in all of NYC!


Some areas more than others; https://www.nytimes.com/1979/05/12/a...d-a-woman.html


To this day there is still a *huge* rat problem downtown/City Hall area. Am talking going far west as past Trinity Church area towards West Street/ the highway.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:41 PM
 
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If I paid $43,000 a month for a townhouse rental, I'd:

1) be a fool, albeit a rich one ;
2) damn well sue the pants off of the owner if I had to put up with rats and heating issues, assuming I didn't get a refund.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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Its hard to believe that they paid that much a month for something like that. $43K a month? Its laughable someone will pay a years salary to live in UES for 1 month SMH.
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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If I paid $43,000 a month for a townhouse rental, I'd:

1) be a fool, albeit a rich one ;
2) damn well sue the pants off of the owner if I had to put up with rats and heating issues, assuming I didn't get a refund.
Actually know exactly where that townhouse is; and yes that corner of 81st and Third is infested with rats. Has been for years, so much so many of us wondered why Madonna would buy a mansion on the block.


I won't walk down that block at night, or if I do it is in the street.


In fact East 81st from really about halfway down from Lexington going past Third and really Second onto First is full of rats.


IMHO many parts of Yorkville have problems with rats because those old tenement/walk-up apartment buildings have no place to keep trash. Nearly all have cans or bins in front of buildings that frequently are over flowing. This or trash is simply left in plastic bags. Three times a week those bags are moved to curb for collection, but that doesn't change things.


As it relates to East 81st and Third, there are and have been restaurants on west side of avenue from 80th to 81st looping around to just a few doors from the townhouse in question. Each night they all throw out plastic bags filled with food waste.
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:14 PM
 
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Actually know exactly where that townhouse is; and yes that corner of 81st and Third is infested with rats. Has been for years, so much so many of us wondered why Madonna would buy a mansion on the block.


I won't walk down that block at night, or if I do it is in the street.


In fact East 81st from really about halfway down from Lexington going past Third and really Second onto First is full of rats.


IMHO many parts of Yorkville have problems with rats because those old tenement/walk-up apartment buildings have no place to keep trash. Nearly all have cans or bins in front of buildings that frequently are over flowing. This or trash is simply left in plastic bags. Three times a week those bags are moved to curb for collection, but that doesn't change things.


As it relates to East 81st and Third, there are and have been restaurants on west side of avenue from 80th to 81st looping around to just a few doors from the townhouse in question. Each night they all throw out plastic bags filled with food waste.
You put out a couple of dozen poison boxes. In two weeks you take the rats to zero. When nothing eats the bait you declare success and pick up the boxes. Then you leave a couple of boxes out as a check. If nothing eats the bait no rats. If you get the bait nibbled you put out the boxes.
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:24 PM
 
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You put out a couple of dozen poison boxes. In two weeks you take the rats to zero. When nothing eats the bait you declare success and pick up the boxes. Then you leave a couple of boxes out as a check. If nothing eats the bait no rats. If you get the bait nibbled you put out the boxes.


Sorry but no, that isn't how it works.


You can walk up and down the UES and find bait boxes galore; and yes they still have rats.


A friend lives on 80th near Second, and that block/corner is and has been infested to point of being overrun at times with rats. Yeah, city comes out and puts down poison which knocks down the number of rats. But a month or so later things are back where they started.


You can check things out here:


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Problem is rats for most part are living in the sewers/underground; that is unless they've moved into a building. Baiting only works when you can clear out an established population of rats and keep more from ever setting up shop. This often just isn't possible for certain areas of NYC now because the rats are (again) underground.


All that construction for SAS didn't help, nor is the fact the UES like many other parts of the city is undergoing a construction boom. Whenever you demolish/gut renovate an old building, and or start digging holes in this city it displaces rats.


One saving grace of the new SAS line is they didn't go with ventilation grates that lead to street. You walk up Lexington from say 59th north towards 125th at night and you see rats climbing out/going into those subway grates.
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