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With the exception of bringing friends to the gym, you did not mention in your post what else specifically these people are doing that is offensive. You can complain to the building management (including unobtrusively taking a picture of "friends" at the gym, or whatever other problems are happening). Anyone violating terms of a lease can be fined or evicted (and companies that own and manage rental buildings DO pursue fines and evictions - it is hard for small scale landlords, but fairly routine for larger companies).
Complaining is not going to accomplish much. Most landlords are now jumping into the tax rebate affordable housing program. It’s sad but true. New York State has one of the highest property taxes in the US and this is one -if not the only way- to bring down those taxes.
You may be able to complain about the actual behavior of the person (loud music, hoarding, taking a **** in the elevator, and other project-like behaviors).
Complaining is not going to accomplish much. Most landlords are now jumping into the tax rebate affordable housing program. It’s sad but true. New York State has one of the highest property taxes in the US and this is one -if not the only way- to bring down those taxes.
You may be able to complain about the actual behavior of the person (loud music, hoarding, taking a **** in the elevator, and other project-like behaviors).
Just judging by the threads popular on this forum, there must be thousands of people on the waiting list for renting in that mixed-income new building where the OP is renting. If one tenant is kicked out of an affordable unit for ratchet behavior, there will be a thousand of applicants waiting to replace him/her. A private rental company (as opposed to NYCHA) DOES care about what is happening on their property, and they can perfectly well afford to kick out a problem tenant because he/she will be replaced immediately by a presumably better one. When the word gets around that one will get readily kicked out of an affordable unit in a mixed-income building for breaking the building rules, people will think much harder about breaking them.
Just judging by the threads popular on this forum, there must be thousands of people on the waiting list for renting in that mixed-income new building where the OP is renting. If one tenant is kicked out of an affordable unit for ratchet behavior, there will be a thousand of applicants waiting to replace him/her. A private rental company (as opposed to NYCHA) DOES care about what is happening on their property, and they can perfectly well afford to kick out a problem tenant because he/she will be replaced immediately by a presumably better one. When the word gets around that one will get readily kicked out of an affordable unit in a mixed-income building for breaking the building rules, people will think much harder about breaking them.
Now if someone is doing stuff like using the bathroom in the elevators or hallways, that definitely needs to be brought to management attention. Ditto other anti social behaviors. The private company will not want to lose it’s high paying tenants and have only poor ones. You’re right about the penalties for doing unacceptable things and the very long waiting list.
With the exception of bringing friends to the gym, you did not mention in your post what else specifically these people are doing that is offensive. You can complain to the building management (including unobtrusively taking a picture of "friends" at the gym, or whatever other problems are happening). Anyone violating terms of a lease can be fined or evicted (and companies that own and manage rental buildings DO pursue fines and evictions - it is hard for small scale landlords, but fairly routine for larger companies).
The OP also did not say if letting friends in to use the gym is against building rules. If there’s no rule against it, then they have done nothing wrong.
She also hasn’t said that the friends are actually doing anything bad. Presumably if they were the management would restrict access to the gym and enforce the restrictions.
I live in a new building in East Harlem. I'm the first tenant in my apt. The building has doormen, a hard-working super, two nice elevators, "Juliette" terraces, rooftop access, a gym, and free Internet access.
Oh, and now "low-income" people. People who feel entitled to living here because they grew up in Harlem. I've had a few interactions with someone of them, and after I did, I felt like I needed a SHOWER. I didn't realize how much I loathe these people. Their ****ty attitudes, and ****tier behavior. Treating this building and the hard-working people in it, like the projects they just came from. They're paying pennies on the dollar for their apartments. I wish I cut my 2 year lease. Now I understand why condos are so sought after.
"Low-income" tenants. The "low" stands for low-lives. Low or little respect for the social contract others have to abide by. And what's crazy is that these low-lifes will remain here, long after I am.
God, forgive me. I hate that I feel this way. I hate that I'm letting this turn me into a person I don't like. I don't have a lot, but what I do have, I've worked hard for. And, really, I just want serenity when I close my door. And what I'm going to do to ensure my piece of serenity and peace of mind is buy home security cameras. I really don't feel like my apt (and cat) is safe when I leave for work.
What is the criteria to get one of these apts? I've been looking into it, and apparently, these people have to work. And that's bull**** I know they don't. Not all, of course. But when I'm lucky enough to work from home and have to do errands, I see them coming in and out during the day. (And don't be ridiculous: they're not working from home, too.)
I'm done spewing for now. In my dreams, one of these "20%ers" is reading this, and if you are, I just want to say No one gives a f**k that you grew up in Harlem. The world is changing, including the world around you. Ingratiate yourself. Have some ****ing manners. Act like an adult, not a farm animal. Stop letting your friends in to use this gym we're lucky enough to have.
I need a shower.
One more thing: although it is blatantly unfair that one person pays much more in rent than another person, for the exact same apartment, still low-income tenants in these mixed-income buildings pay at least SOME rent, and presumably pay the same percentage of their income for their rent as you pay for your rent. While this situation is far from being fair, at least the low-income renters in these buildings do not receive a complete handout, but still work for their rent. The argument is that the only way for a city to have low-paid service workers (which any city indeed does need) is to secure enough housing affordable to such workers. Any low-income lessee must be working if he/she has managed to get a lease in your building. The parade of non-workers that you are seeing in the building during regular business hours could be the extended families/friends of the lessees, who may have no legal right to live in the building - and that is also something you could point out to the company that owns the building
I live in a new building in East Harlem. I'm the first tenant in my apt. The building has doormen, a hard-working super, two nice elevators, "Juliette" terraces, rooftop access, a gym, and free Internet access.
Oh, and now "low-income" people. People who feel entitled to living here because they grew up in Harlem. I've had a few interactions with someone of them, and after I did, I felt like I needed a SHOWER. I didn't realize how much I loathe these people. Their ****ty attitudes, and ****tier behavior. Treating this building and the hard-working people in it, like the projects they just came from. They're paying pennies on the dollar for their apartments. I wish I cut my 2 year lease. Now I understand why condos are so sought after.
"Low-income" tenants. The "low" stands for low-lives. Low or little respect for the social contract others have to abide by. And what's crazy is that these low-lifes will remain here, long after I am.
God, forgive me. I hate that I feel this way. I hate that I'm letting this turn me into a person I don't like. I don't have a lot, but what I do have, I've worked hard for. And, really, I just want serenity when I close my door. And what I'm going to do to ensure my piece of serenity and peace of mind is buy home security cameras. I really don't feel like my apt (and cat) is safe when I leave for work.
What is the criteria to get one of these apts? I've been looking into it, and apparently, these people have to work. And that's bull**** I know they don't. Not all, of course. But when I'm lucky enough to work from home and have to do errands, I see them coming in and out during the day. (And don't be ridiculous: they're not working from home, too.)
I'm done spewing for now. In my dreams, one of these "20%ers" is reading this, and if you are, I just want to say No one gives a f**k that you grew up in Harlem. The world is changing, including the world around you. Ingratiate yourself. Have some ****ing manners. Act like an adult, not a farm animal. Stop letting your friends in to use this gym we're lucky enough to have.
I need a shower.
Speaking of manners, you might have made a better first impression as a new arrival here, if you'd bothered to come back and respond to some of the replies.
You’re an idiot for moving there. I wouldn’t move into a building knowingly occupied by people who did not earn the right to be there if it was free (yes, I get the irony, it’s to prove a point).
It’s not magic people. If you live in a place inhabited by people with no personal investment, you’re going to encounter anti-social, degenerate behavior. Period, end of story. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
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