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I don't really have as much as a problem with it but its strange how affordable housing is still built in luxury buildiungs in Manhattan where their neighbors pay 5X more for their unit.
Lets build affordable housing in Star Island, The Hamptons and Beverly Hills so nobody will feel ostracized and we can all live hand in hand in a perfect socialist economy.
Yay!
The affordable housing in luxury buildings is an incentive to developers. If they agree to set aside a certain portion of the units for affordable incomes, they receive the right to build extra floors. It's a zoning issue. See, there is vaild reasoning behind why these conditions exist, so hopefully you are educated by this post and gain a different outlook on things.
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Maybe I was just a bit out of line. But you will NEVER be a true New Yorker with the attitude you have doesnt matter how much you pay in taxes.
Just for your information, yes I did grow up in East NY, never lived in the projects, perhaps was even a few thousands short to be considered middle class, however, never recieved any assistance from the government...anyways the point being how do you assume that I am poor??
Like some have said you couldve just stayed in Southern California, NYC doesnt need more people like you. Do you think the poor like being poor??
Now I am starting to see why people here in Texas dont like most people from California, its the elitist attitude you have shown throughout this post.
I think there is no hope for Materialism...her name says it all. Let's not waste time and energy trying to educate her about REAL life....if she cared to gain the knowledge she can google it. Her elitist attitude no doubt served her well in CA....not so much here.
if materialism thinks that those old brick public housing buildings look ugly in manhattan and she would rather see huge glass skyscrapers all over manhattan so that it looks good is pretty much unrealistic . other cities in the world are even worse , frustration/horrible conditions/etc , etc... i am from upstate and nyc facinates me . yes it is true that there will be crime in and around public housings but can't the US govn pour in billions of dollars to help all the poor people instead of wasting them in iraq?
I think there is still GREAT potential for housing projects...simply putting a new facade and selling off the apts at a VERY low rate would make a HUGE difference in the aesthetics, the quality of people, the environment in and around the housing projects, as well as how they are viewed by the residents and the community/country/world.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with the projects per se. It may be a good idea to rethink what the projects really are and turn them into something else that still would be viable for people that need to or want to live in them. There have been a lot of tenement buidlings turned into cooperatives and they appear to be thriving. People tend to take more pride in the whole building and not just their apartment when some form of ownership is involved. They get a chance to vote on improvements, make recommendations and have their voice heard. It may make a big difference if the city was able to do that with the projects and still maintain certain criteria on who is allowed to live there (like having to be approved by a coop board) and setting limits on what the apartments can be or your stake in the cooperative sold for.
Having read some of the posts on some of the boards, I have come to the sad realization that some people really have no idea of the culture of the projects or of the people that live in them and that is a shame. Getting to know someone in the projects and seeing how they live can go a long way in understanding exactly what the purpose of this form of housing is.
Maybe I was just a bit out of line. But you will NEVER be a true New Yorker with the attitude you have doesnt matter how much you pay in taxes.
Just for your information, yes I did grow up in East NY, never lived in the projects, perhaps was even a few thousands short to be considered middle class, however, never recieved any assistance from the government...anyways the point being how do you assume that I am poor??
Like some have said you couldve just stayed in Southern California, NYC doesnt need more people like you. Do you think the poor like being poor??
Now I am starting to see why people here in Texas dont like most people from California, its the elitist attitude you have shown throughout this post.
First of all, I'm not a she!!!!!!!!! I'm a guy. And you're delusional if you think all New Yorkers are down-to-earth as you believe they are. Trust me, out of all the upper-crust people I've met in Southern California, San Francisco, Connecticut and Florida, the wealthy New Yorkers I've met that come to mind were the most snobby and elitist by far. You guys are natives to the richest city in the country that is crawling with the elite and you think that everybody confirms to your socilist views and likes being around poor people? LOL. And for the last time, I'm not elitist and I do know people who would be considered poor by NY standards but I have nothing against them.
it is not logical to me . is it even possible to kick out all poor people out of the city? America is a free country so poor people can live anywhere , period!
First of all, I'm not a she!!!!!!!!! I'm a guy. And you're delusional if you think all New Yorkers are down-to-earth as you believe they are. Trust me, out of all the upper-crust people I've met in Southern California, San Francisco, Connecticut and Florida, the wealthy New Yorkers I've met that come to mind were the most snobby and elitist by far. You guys are natives to the richest city in the country that is crawling with the elite and you think that everybody confirms to your socilist views and likes being around poor people? LOL. And for the last time, I'm not elitist and I do know people who would be considered poor by NY standards but I have nothing against them.
Why do you keep mentioning socialism? Maybe you should look that up. No one here is suggesting taking away your home and housing poorer people in it. No one is suggesting building new projects on fifth ave. What is being suggested is that we revamp the existing projects, which are peoples HOMES, and create housing that might appeal to different income levels, not just the poverty level. This is what should have been done in the first place.
Can you at least admit, that tearing down all of the projects in Manhattan, and building them elsewhere, is not dealing with the problem of public housings, it is only moving the problem?
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how can you kick out all the poor?
