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Old 06-01-2020, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Well the democrat governors are “resisting” deployments to further (in their minds) degrade Trump’s chances of re-election. That’s what this whole year has been about ultimately.
Its sickening that you're right as it says a lot about the sorry state of Democrat leaders today, but this has become clear to me. I say give the governors until the end of the night tonight. If they don't act appropriately as has been the case, invoke the Insurrection Act.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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He said he may invoke the 1807 Insurrection Act, which permits a president to deploy military inside the U.S. to deal with civil disorder.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:53 PM
 
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He said he may invoke the 1807 Insurrection Act, which permits a president to deploy military inside the U.S. to deal with civil disorder.
GOOD!

Unless I want a new Coach bag. I really like those Coach bags. A Cheesecake Factory dessert - nothing says democracy like a free cheesecake. I've never had a North Face coat. . . . a flat screen TV. . . so many options, so few bricks.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:08 PM
 
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Well the democrat governors are “resisting” deployments to further (in their minds) degrade Trump’s chances of re-election. That’s what this whole year has been about ultimately.
Then they don't know their history.

Civil unrest almost always results in more conservative politicians winning election as people crave a return to order and decency.

Examples:

1977 Blackout Riot: Koch (Conservative Dem, would be Rep today) elected mayor 1978
1992 Los Angeles Riot: Republican mayor elected in 1993
1991 Crown Heights and 1992 Washington Heights riots: Republican mayor elected in 1993
2005 Riots around Paris France: Conservative PM elected in 2007
2011 Riots around London England: Conservative party already in office, has yet to be diminished in power as of this writing.


These kids are pure fodder for Trump.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:22 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Then they don't know their history.

Civil unrest almost always results in more conservative politicians winning election as people crave a return to order and decency.

Examples:

1977 Blackout Riot: Koch (Conservative Dem, would be Rep today) elected mayor 1978
1992 Los Angeles Riot: Republican mayor elected in 1993
1991 Crown Heights and 1992 Washington Heights riots: Republican mayor elected in 1993
2005 Riots around Paris France: Conservative PM elected in 2007
2011 Riots around London England: Conservative party already in office, has yet to be diminished in power as of this writing.


These kids are pure fodder for Trump.
It’s true, and go back to even Nixon’s election after the ‘68 and on revolts. Through all of this, there were incremental improvements, but mostly garbage piled on high. France, Scandinavian countries, and others got large social reforms, but the US mostly got Butkus, and it’s difficult to imagine differently. Even the weird Quiet Revolution in nearby Quebec got massive reforms overall with its turn towards continual, but small scale violence, but that’s not America, and that points, for me, towards other means to figure **** out.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:35 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Im at work in Manhattan now. Its getting crazy out here. Not a protest anymore, the protest happened during the day. Pure looting and rioting.

Something needs to be done, Nat Guard, Military brought in. We cannot have another night of this. Enough is enough.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Because of looting going on in Union Sq and the UES right now, curfew is set at 8pm tomorrow.
The looters are really brazen now... smh.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:55 PM
 
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Old 06-01-2020, 08:03 PM
 
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This may very well be true, but there are still six whites for every black person in the US. So per capita it's still pretty skewed.

More important questions. If a black person gets murdered, and the race of the murder is known, what's that distribution or the murderers' race? And what percentage of black murdered are murdered by LE (and by murdered, I mean a non-legally sanctioned defensive shooting)?
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Old 06-01-2020, 08:06 PM
 
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Re: SanMan's graphic:
You can spin numbers however you want. There are 6 times as many white people in the US as black, so just looking at fatal police shootings, blacks are proportionately being shot and killed by police at a much higher rate.

And your graphic doesn't even take into account UNARMED shooting deaths by police, which is the real issue. When you look at those numbers, an equal number of whites and blacks are killed, so when you then consider there are 6x as many whites as blacks in the US, which means an even wider racial disparity.

If this seems hard to understand, go back and refresh your junior high math.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-white-people/
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