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Old 08-22-2021, 11:27 AM
 
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The toxic people on this forum aren't going anywhere. They have issues of their own that they don't seem to want to resolve. If I hated a place that much, I wouldn't spend so much of my energy gravitating to things related to it.
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Old 08-22-2021, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Using the population increase recorded from 2010 to 2020 is a grossly inadequate gauge of NYC's health in 2021 and moving forward. People are definitely leaving the city in droves but as we know thousands upon thousands of illegal and legal immigrants, mostly poor, are coming to the city, as always. So it's probably really a net gain for population. But as crime continues to spiral out of control, and it will, the next few years will prove to put NYC into a social/economic tailspin for sure.

Oh, NYC is coming back, but mid 1990s NYC is what ya'll gonna get! Not 2018 pre covid low crime economic booming NYC.
Lmao Jesus you people have no quits. In reality Nyc has a super low murder rate. Cut it out. NYC isn’t dying in the fantasy you wished it did. Still growing!
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Old 08-22-2021, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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People who say that the illegals have been moving in to replace tax payer base- who has been purchasing in the thousands of newly constructed buildings over the past ten years? You're ignoring gentrification in swaths of Brooklyn, Astoria to name a few. Record number of jobs prior to the pandemic. I think the picture is a lot more complicated.
That’s why they are labeled toxic people. Using the illegal excuse lol
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Old 08-22-2021, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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The toxic people on this forum aren't going anywhere. They have issues of their own that they don't seem to want to resolve. If I hated a place that much, I wouldn't spend so much of my energy gravitating to things related to it.
It’s that simple?
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Old 08-22-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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It’s that simple?
No, one of the hardest things for people to do is to address their mental health. We can see the evidence of this like daily on this forum lol.
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Old 08-22-2021, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Right! Yeah, just an astoundingly huge increase. Reports have said that the 2010 census was undercounted though by about 200-300k or so. It came in at like 8,175,000 or so in 2010, so if you add another 300k not counted, that puts the population at roughly 8,475,000.

Still though, it increased roughly 325-400k from 2010 to 2020. Huge increase, healthy growth for such a massive global city like New York.

Collapsing? Folks fleeing the "high crime" of NYC? "the city is over!" Those headline writers are eating crow.

NYC has issues, but at almost 9 million, I'm not surprised. A new mayor will hopefully help -- we will see.

At this rate, the city will be approaching 9.3 million by 2030.

I competed my census form online on 3-28-2020. Assuming that many other NYers completed their census forms before people started fleeing the city, you can see how the numbers can't be totally trusted. Another possibility is that many of those moving in are causing the increase in crime. Just a possibility but it's happened before in the 1960s.
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Old 08-24-2021, 04:26 AM
 
Location: NY
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We are living in a sad state as well as living in a sad state.

Last edited by Mr.Retired; 08-24-2021 at 04:35 AM..
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I competed my census form online on 3-28-2020. Assuming that many other NYers completed their census forms before people started fleeing the city, you can see how the numbers can't be totally trusted. Another possibility is that many of those moving in are causing the increase in crime. Just a possibility but it's happened before in the 1960s.
This is my opinion, and only theoretical--

If I had to put a guess out there, with how many estimated people left NYC due to COVID-19, I'd say less than 10% left overall. So if you calculate that out, 10% of 8.8 million is 880,000 total.

That's being aggressive, as well. And out of that theoretical 880,000, let's say half of those came back to NYC, within the past 6 months of leaving.

So 440,000 moved back, and 440,000 decided to leave for good.

That still puts NYC at just under 8.5 milllion in the city for 2020.

I'm thinking NYC is still well on target to hit 9 million+ for the 2030 census--it's in fine shape I think.
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:43 PM
 
Location: On the phone
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I was born and raised in NYC, left for Sedona, AZ in 1996. You couldn’t pay me to move back to NY.
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Old 08-25-2021, 04:59 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I was born and raised in NYC, left for Sedona, AZ in 1996. You couldn’t pay me to move back to NY.
I visited there once. Hot as hell and only getting hotter and I hate the desert. The town was nice though. I liked the art scene. I’m just not a desert person. I’m a forest guy. Glad you found a place you like, though.
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