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Old 11-30-2021, 10:47 AM
 
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I'm not completely against this but I don't think these sorts of centers opening have helped things where they exist in the US. In San Francisco, which has tons of these it just makes SF more of a place with a hard drug culture on the streets. Not to mention open defecation by bums who sling their feces, spit on people, and otherwise assault pedestrians including children.

PS Thanks Deblasio.
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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Free drugs and all?
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:42 AM
 
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Free drugs and all?
“ users must bring their own drugs.”
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I think in SF the hard drug use went up. Now, if this is due to these injection sites it is hard to tell, since all these NGOs and other social services related institutions that collect this kind of data have a monetary interest to keep them open.
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:13 PM
 
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Switzerland has had on-site injection lounges for years. If done properly it could be a success but going by the past methadone clinics in NYC and surrounding areas I don't have much hope for this idea. Why would the situation be any different now ?

What we do need is access to Fentanyl testing strips. Not only for heroin but for other drugs as well.
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:20 PM
 
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Switzerland has had on-site injection lounges for years. If done properly it could be a success but going by the past methadone clinics in NYC and surrounding areas I don't have much hope for this idea. Why would the situation be any different now ?

What we do need is access to Fentanyl testing strips. Not only for heroin but for other drugs as well.
Very few get back from heroin. Fentanyl just speeds up their exit.
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Currently residing in the Big Apple NYC
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Another page out of the European socialist model of government. I wonder what the starting pay for a worker in one of these places will be?
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:28 PM
 
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Switzerland has had on-site injection lounges for years. If done properly it could be a success but going by the past methadone clinics in NYC and surrounding areas I don't have much hope for this idea. Why would the situation be any different now ?

What we do need is access to Fentanyl testing strips. Not only for heroin but for other drugs as well.
The demographics are totally different b/t NYC and Zurich.
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Old 11-30-2021, 03:26 PM
 
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Very few get back from heroin. Fentanyl just speeds up their exit.
There's good in everything if you but look for it.
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Old 11-30-2021, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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The injection centers belong on the grounds of hospitals, not on retail strips of struggling neighborhoods. Surrounding local businesses will be hurt by the junkies hanging around.
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