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Old 02-15-2022, 06:05 AM
 
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I watch the Active Self Protection Channel on YouTube- the guy who hosts it is very well versed in self defense- but does anyone here know how to fight against an attack like that from the moment she started to climb up the stairs and forward? How can one even fight that? I mean she was trapped the moment she started climbing the stairs. Personally, I would’ve knocked very hard at a few peoples apartments on my way up - but wouldn’t have opened or gone into mine.
It is not the responsibility of small Asian women to defend themselves against savage people allowed to wonder the streets. Not in a civilized society at least.

The first priority of the system should be protect the weak, non-violent, and law abiding from violence. What got turned on it's head with BLM, defund the police, and woke de-incarceration da's is that the guy who did the killing here is "the weak" according to their narrative, because he's the way he is due to historic racism. The idea that "violence" is not burning down the whole system because of cops who get a little too much joy out of roughing people up.

These are incredibly stupid ideas born in college radical clubs, and a big reason you are seeing more of these kinds of things is because these ideas have somehow become mainstream thanks to the legacy media and social media, and dumb younger people actually vote for people who implement these ideas.

Meanwhile you have the hen on the "everything's gonna be all white" trailer saying "and then they kill us". Who is killing whom?
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Old 02-15-2022, 06:28 AM
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There was a time when a driver would wait a moment to see that you got into your door. Not anymore I guess.

Meanwhile, just now on the radio, "Asian community living in fear." She was attacked because she was female. It had nothing to do with her being Asian. He had rape on his mind.
Yes, if someone had seen what was happening, they could have called her and told her what was going on, and even call the police as well.
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Old 02-15-2022, 07:54 AM
 
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That is however the one key aspect in all of this that needs to be addressed. Without a reliable and relatable father figure, there is a higher chance the child doesn't really behave well within the society and has a distorted view of things. Hopefully, the society understands that and instead of just blaming those children, mothers or fathers, we find a way to instill a good role model to those children so that they know what it is to be a real man.
I totally disagree. It has absolutely nothing to do with having a reliable and relatable father figure. Plenty of criminals grow up with a father and a mother present in the home. There is clearly a genetic predisposition for violence in some people and having a father in the home isn't going to change that at all.
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Old 02-15-2022, 07:59 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Yes, apparently she got out of an Uber that put her outside of her apartment building but when she opened the door, she didn't see the guy was lurking nearby.
Yeah,...you really gotta swivel your head in those times.

Walk backwards into your door and do Not leave until the door is shut behind you.

It's very common for random people to try to get in before it shuts.

It can be a legit tenant looking to get in so they don't need to get their keys out, or a delivery person not wanting to wait for a buzzer,..but as we saw, it could be a lunatic too.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:04 AM
 
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There are two schools of thought about stuff like this.

Option A: The woke ding-dongs that support things like bail reform, reducing charges, emptying prisons, etc. are well-intentioned but impossibly naïve as to the reality of what happens when you remove society's safeguards.

Option B: The Powers That Be do this on purpose, knowing that the increased violence and anarchy that will result will lead the populace to cry out for more government intervention, which they can utilize to bring about systemic changes - more socialism, communism, etc. Much funding for far-left DA races has come from George Soros and his affiliated groups which push far-left policies:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...tes/ar-AARrjGK

So, either the people pushing this are dumb, or they're evil. Probably a bit of both.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:05 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I totally disagree. It has absolutely nothing to do with having a reliable and relatable father figure. Plenty of criminals grow up with a father and a mother present in the home. There is clearly a genetic predisposition for violence in some people and having a father in the home isn't going to change that at all.
I feel like that poster is referencing some statistics about children from a 2 parent home vs. single. I have seen the stat splashed around and don't really dispute it.

It's like the typical street thug will generally have a background of a broken home but the school shooter type will have a regular two parent home. /shrug

So yeah,..I dunno about genetics,.but some people are just bad seeds.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:19 AM
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Yeah,...you really gotta swivel your head in those times.

Walk backwards into your door and do Not leave until the door is shut behind you.

It's very common for random people to try to get in before it shuts.

It can be a legit tenant looking to get in so they don't need to get their keys out, or a delivery person not wanting to wait for a buzzer,..but as we saw, it could be a lunatic too.
Yes, even if it's rude, no one should have any qualms about slamming the door into the face of a stranger trying to get in after them.

This is New York, and no one can afford to be too nice. That is how criminals try to disarm people, playing into people's niceness. Street smarts matter. It's been the old school New York way.

This is crazy. I saw a notice on an apartment building recently, a new building that went up. They actually had to tell tenants not to buzz open the front door for people they don't know. From what I could tell by reading between the lines, there was some type of problem, ie. package thefts, or who knows, something even worse, like muggings or assaults.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:20 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Yeah,...you really gotta swivel your head in those times.

Walk backwards into your door and do Not leave until the door is shut behind you.

It's very common for random people to try to get in before it shuts.

It can be a legit tenant looking to get in so they don't need to get their keys out, or a delivery person not wanting to wait for a buzzer,..but as we saw, it could be a lunatic too.
Yeah, it's a tough call. It can be so awkward! You don't want to shut the door in someone's face but there was another incident where a lady kept the door open for the person behind her only to have him assault her.
It's a judgment call. I've kept doors open for delivery people (so many delivery people delivering a whole bunch of stuff) and others and they are so thankful when you do so (esp. delivery people) and I've been lucky so far. They all had legitimate reasons for entering. People have kept the door open for me too. My mom isn't so charitable. And yeah, people get mad at her but she doesn't care.

Also, this is a cautionary tale. When friends/family drop me off (even if there's a doorman) they make sure I've made it safely inside the lobby and then give me a call a few minutes later to make sure I made it safely inside my apt. Don't know if you can ask a uber driver to hang around to make sure you made it safely inside but that's why I try to make friends with the uber driver!

Course some would judge and say a lady shouldn't be out and about until 4 am alone. The latest I came home alone was 2-3 am. But that was when I was younger. Now, I'm tucked in by 10 and will only hang out late if I'm part of a group & we're all headed home together.

Poor lady. She was still alive when the cops came but they couldn't bust down the door. A place that should have been a haven for her became her prison. Killed in her own apt. with her own knife. Such a tragedy.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yeah,...you really gotta swivel your head in those times.

Walk backwards into your door and do Not leave until the door is shut behind you.

It's very common for random people to try to get in before it shuts.

It can be a legit tenant looking to get in so they don't need to get their keys out, or a delivery person not wanting to wait for a buzzer,..but as we saw, it could be a lunatic too.
As a building doorman, you are 100% correct!! It is common people will take an opportunity to enter like this. People walking around trying doors is common too. The overnight guy 2 weeks ago had a crazy man at 3am trying to get in the side door, and kicking the door when it didnt open. Luckily he went to the door causing the guy to walk off (night guy is huge but just knowing they cant just waltz in helps.) I have had during the day harmless people walk in thinking we were a hotel or wanting to rent an apartment. This post is excellent naicha.
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