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Old 03-17-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Crime and homelessness must be a factor for the early close. I blame it mostly on Deblasio
That and I think the tourist traffic is not back fully. Ditto some office workers (who actually have the disposable income to go out regularly) are WFH and may be even not in NYC physically, although on paper still in NYC.
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Old 03-17-2022, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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We shall soon see; once warm weather arrives by April or so traditionally people start coming out of winter hibernation to enjoy nights out.
Yeah, so true.

But also, with that being said, in my neighborhoods here in Brooklyn (Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, Boerum Hill), there have been a lot of new restaurant openings rolling out so far in 2022.

It is refreshing to see, but hoping the timing is right for them. I think people are just absolutely sick of the whole COVID era (2 years long!!) and are ready to never live that again, and go out and enjoy themselves.

But, also, at the same time, (myself included) a lot of people have enjoyed their time at home, and have become more homebodies, even in New York. So after a 2 year habit of that, it will take time for folks to go out and stay out later.

But I will say I was out last weekend for 2 nights in a row (Sat/Sun nights) and bars were packed. I was in the West Village, Hell's Kitchen and UWS.
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Old 03-17-2022, 03:30 PM
 
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Yeah, so true.

But also, with that being said, in my neighborhoods here in Brooklyn (Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, Boerum Hill), there have been a lot of new restaurant openings rolling out so far in 2022.

It is refreshing to see, but hoping the timing is right for them. I think people are just absolutely sick of the whole COVID era (2 years long!!) and are ready to never live that again, and go out and enjoy themselves.

But, also, at the same time, (myself included) a lot of people have enjoyed their time at home, and have become more homebodies, even in New York. So after a 2 year habit of that, it will take time for folks to go out and stay out later.

But I will say I was out last weekend for 2 nights in a row (Sat/Sun nights) and bars were packed. I was in the West Village, Hell's Kitchen and UWS.
Young people are back in city with a vengeance. When you're new and low on totem pole you're going into office regardless of who is still working from home. So when work day is done, or on weekends young folks do what they've always done in city; hit the streets.

Covid is done, over, gone. Few if anyone is wearing masks unless forced to such as getting on a subway or bus.

All this being said it was rather a quiet St. Paddy's day on UES.
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Old 03-18-2022, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Young people are back in city with a vengeance. When you're new and low on totem pole you're going into office regardless of who is still working from home. So when work day is done, or on weekends young folks do what they've always done in city; hit the streets.

Covid is done, over, gone. Few if anyone is wearing masks unless forced to such as getting on a subway or bus.

All this being said it was rather a quiet St. Paddy's day on UES.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. There seems to be a new wave of another variant building in Europe and Asia.
Most people in the U.S are now at or near the end of whatever immunities came from vaccines or infections and my guess is that even less people will get the second booster that got the first.
This could be setting the stage for a lot of misery to come. Are we ever going back to any restrictions? Probably not but that doesn't mean a whole lot of people aren't going to get very sick and die.

We might all be over and done with covid but I don't think covid is "done,over, gone" at all.
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Old 03-18-2022, 07:29 AM
 
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I think many restaurants cannot fully staff their establishments, so they have to close early.

I know many restaurants that used to be open for lunch are now only open for dinner. They say they cannot get staff.
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Old 03-18-2022, 12:11 PM
 
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All this being said it was rather a quiet St. Paddy's day on UES.
You wrote this at 530pm. Bars there were packed later on.
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Old 03-18-2022, 03:13 PM
 
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You wrote this at 530pm. Bars there were packed later on.
Parade ends on UES. Years ago place was packed by late afternoon into evening, especially Yorkville where many of the Irish bars are located.

Went out last night around 7PM and a few bars were crowded on Second and Third, but nothing like once was.
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Old 03-19-2022, 08:56 AM
 
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As someone who is part owner of a restaurant, we simply cannot afford to maintain the same hours of operation pre-COVID. And even if we could, we do not have the staff to do so. We cut down our hours of operation by 5 hours per day and we STILL struggled to break even from the beginning of COVID till now.
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Old 03-19-2022, 09:03 AM
 
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As someone who is part owner of a restaurant, we simply cannot afford to maintain the same hours of operation pre-COVID. And even if we could, we do not have the staff to do so. We cut down our hours of operation by 5 hours per day and we STILL struggled to break even from the beginning of COVID till now.
Is this because of less patronage? Or any other reasons?
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Old 03-19-2022, 09:06 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Is this because of less patronage? Or any other reasons?
Less patronage, less staff, and higher overhead costs. Remember that minimum wage went up, so even in normal times, that means you can't hire as many people because of the overhead involved, unless you're doing a high volume of business to cover that. I see the same thing in the coffee places I frequent. Earlier on they had limited hours, and just one barista and some places stopped offering any prepped food options. As volume has increased, they have more workers and re-opened the kitchen and expanded the hours to what it was, which in some cases included cutting weekend hours entirely.
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