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While Adams and the rest of the people in charge of the city fiddle while the city burns, there's another thing to understand and that is that everyone is now Kitty Genovese. No one will help you. No one will confront someone that is accosting, beating, raping, or terrorizing you. They will look the other way or pull out a phone and record the action.
Back in the day when I was a young person heading into work on the subway, if someone was being accosted or harassed, people would intervene. This was in the 80s. Today, the only ones with a built in meter that says "Get up and help," are too old to be of any use in such a situation. When talking about the failure of the parents who raised the thugs who victimize people, one should not leave out the failure of parents who raised their kids to look the other way or consider it entertaining when they see someone being mugged or beaten. That is a whole other element that contributes to the toilet that this city has become.
People don't help nowadays because it's too expensive to help out and potentially get injured (who's paying the hospital bill)
Not because people are apathetic
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What’s not to understand?
Low Iq, very insecure, has to blast music to prove to the world how free he is and how he doesn’t have a care in the world and there is not a single bastard on the train who will challenge him to a duel.
Then what stops these people from doing more egregious things? It seems they have some sense of what they can not do, even though their impulses tell them to do it..
Adams is a bust despite his tough talk. However, a lot of the crime issue is not solvable on a city level. This is a state, federal, and cultural issue at this point. No police officer in his right mind is going to go out on a limb to arrest violent criminals when they will be released without bail, the District Attorney might not prosecute, and using force to arrest the perp could end up being an edited, viral video.
Adams is a bust despite his tough talk. However, a lot of the crime issue is not solvable on a city level. This is a state, federal, and cultural issue at this point. No police officer in his right mind is going to go out on a limb to arrest violent criminals when they will be released without bail, the District Attorney might not prosecute, and using force to arrest the perp could end up being an edited, viral video.
So he’s a bust, but then you say he cant solve the problem anyway, lol
If thats not an oxymoron
And come to think of it, why would a cop give 2 craps about what happens to somebody after they get arrested if the main duty of a cop is to arrest and issue tickets?
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Au contraire - according to many posters on here, there was a time when NYC had no crime whatsoever
All these crime stories that keep getting posted are a new phenomenon within the past 5 years or so
Hehehe! Great point. I didn't catch the sarcasm in your prior post. Apologies!
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Originally Posted by fluttereagle
Adams is a bust despite his tough talk. However, a lot of the crime issue is not solvable on a city level. This is a state, federal, and cultural issue at this point. No police officer in his right mind is going to go out on a limb to arrest violent criminals when they will be released without bail, the District Attorney might not prosecute, and using force to arrest the perp could end up being an edited, viral video.
Adams has been in office a little over 100 days. I'm not fan of his, but he's not Jesus - he can't undo 8 years of mismanagement in such little time. You're right in that this crime crisis must be addressed at all levels of government. Supposedly, Hochul and the Assembly passed a revised bail reform package that supposed to undo the prior disaster.
But I keep beating the drums of housing. That's the solution. Not more police because they cannot be everywhere and many of them are just heading to early retirement. But we're investing in luxury apartments and renovating Penn Station instead of housing people. If people are housing insecure and are living on the streets, then we can expect crime, drugs, and other deviancies to follow.
And I agree also that there is a severe cultural crisis going on that no one is talking about.
The only solution is CCW and allowing people to stand their ground. Yes, the death rate would be up for a few months, and then the crime rate would plunge. As long as NYC is one big "gun free zone", the armed criminal wolves will alway have a huge herd of sheep (normal law abiding peolpe) to prey upon.
This isn't rocket science. The criminal thugs know that they are the only ones in NYC that are armed. They know they are not being prosecuted for it today. What is stop them? Not a thing.
Add in all of the mentally ill drug addicts who can't hold down a job or rent an apartment so they hang out on subways and on platforms, and you have New York City 2022.
Keep voting Democrat, folks. See what happens.
Dude. Imagine what would happen if CCW was a thing in highly stressed out, aggro, densely populated NYC.
While I agree that Demwits are trash, how do Republican-friendly cities like Fort Worth, OKC, Tulsa have higher crime rates than NYC?
Just create and enforce laws that actually punish criminals, adopt a no broken windows approach to panhandling, ATV's, squatting, etc. and you'll have a NYC that feels safer than it did a decade ago.
So he’s a bust, but then you say he cant solve the problem anyway, lol
If thats not an oxymoron
And come to think of it, why would a cop give 2 craps about what happens to somebody after they get arrested if the main duty of a cop is to arrest and issue tickets?
The entire theme of Adams's campaign was reducing crime, so either he was honest and believed that he had more control over the situation than he did; or he was dishonest and used the issue to win the Democratic primary, aka the election. Either way, I'd call that a bust. Also, despite the state, federal, and cultural issues, the mayor still has some power to crack down on crime, even if it is less than in the past.
About why a cop would care about what happens after the arrest: many cops got into their line of work because they believe in law and order, justice, and protecting public safety. If their actions are pointless and entail a certain amount of personal risk, this is very de-motivating.
The entire theme of Adams's campaign was reducing crime, so either he was honest and believed that he had more control over the situation than he did; or he was dishonest and used the issue to win the Democratic primary, aka the election. Either way, I'd call that a bust. Also, despite the state, federal, and cultural issues, the mayor still has some power to crack down on crime, even if it is less than in the past.
About why a cop would care about what happens after the arrest: many cops got into their line of work because they believe in law and order, justice, and protecting public safety. If their actions are pointless and entail a certain amount of personal risk, this is very de-motivating.
I think Adams does really want to tackle crime and I do believe that he knows how to do it. You don't exactly need to be a genius. Just need to have the balls to withstand the backlash.
However, it's been obvious lately that he also has his sights set on a national level. Due to this , he almost certainly has advisors (and probably believes it himself) that he needs to take a more "moderate" tone to avoid the woke backlash within the Democrat party. He's trying to walk a tightrope and in the process will get nothing done. In turn, this will.also kill any national prospects because the stench of a failing NYC will follow him everywhere.
Hopefully, him and his advisors will see what happened to Chesa Boudin in SF and realize that the woke era has peaked in American politics. Unfortunately, I do believe that we're 5-10. Years behind SF/LA with regard to turning it around.
So he’s a bust, but then you say he cant solve the problem anyway, lol
If thats not an oxymoron
And come to think of it, why would a cop give 2 craps about what happens to somebody after they get arrested if the main duty of a cop is to arrest and issue tickets?
Adams is a bust because he promised things that he can't deliver - no oxymoron involved (though maybe plenty of morons, ie, NYC voters).
A cop will not put his/her life on line for something officially considered to be of no consequence, and will not put his/her career and livelihood on line by starring in edited videos. If something is not considered a prosecutable crime, it is not the main (or any) duty of a cop to arrest for it - in fact, there are many crimes, including somewhat violent ones, for which cops are forbidden to arrest. Last summer, a crazy woman camping on the divider on Park Ave threw a water bottle at me (screaming "you started it first, you started it first" , even though I had just passed by, and had certainly not started anything). I ran away and called 911. The cops arrived within seconds, and told me that all they were allowed to do in this situation was to ask the violently insane homeless person whether he/she wants to go to the emergency room.
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