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That's all very well; but remember if anything goes down it's all on you.
Of course, that is all most of us are saying. We are perfectly willing to take the IMAGINED risks without torturing our friends for thankless baby-sitting.
If doctors are afraid of their insurance companies, let THEM sort it out. Patients are NOT usually children, incapable of making their own decisions about safety.
in today’s litigious society they can be held accountable since they let you go knowing you may still not be capable of good rational decisions about your own safety.
no different then someone leaving a company party where drinking took place or a bar that served you
in today’s litigious society they can be held accountable since they let you go knowing you may still not be capable of good rational decisions about your own safety.
no different then someone leaving a company party where drinking took place or a bar that served you
Absolutely. It is mostly for liability reasons.
I just had to provide a medical escort to someone I know for an in-office surgery (that required anesthesia). That person ABSOLUTELY needed my escort. They were not in the right state of mind at all and legitimately needed my help. This person is in their 30s and is otherwise healthy with no medical issues. I genuinely do not know how they would've gotten home by themselves. And this is a doctor's office and not a hospital, so its not like you can stay overnight.
Lot's of anecdotal stuff.
But the gist is WHO is to determine one's competency to get home, patient or doctor? If a patient can legally deny chemotherapy and opt for death instead, why is he not capable of going outside and hailing a cab for himself when he has had 10 mg. Valium, something he may have had the week before with three martinis?
Unlawful confinement requires depriving a person's liberty so they cannot move from one point to another.
That's all very well; but remember if anything goes down it's all on you.
Am also here to tell you it is highly unadvisable to puke in a taxi or Uber/Lyft ride. Drivers get totally pi$$ed off and loose their minds nowadays when it happens. Have seen drivers almost literally drag some poor soul out of their cab/car all the while cursing and screaming about how they've puked all over back seat and floor.
Everything on you no matter what. In anyway you look at life.
Why would I vomit? I had to fast for 24 hours
Also 2 of the 4 times I took cabs. The other 2 I hopped on the train.
Some people are good and take care of themselves. Not everyone need to be catered to and taken care of. I live in the Bronx. I don't play. I'm not an UES princess like you
My strategy (since I had nobody to ride me home) was I used a fake name and number. After the procedure I played the white lie game with the nurses. I said my ride will pick me up outside, then I said my ride flaked. Then they said you can go home on your own.
Honestly, part of the “liability” is the hospital should arrange for a professional ride service home for all patients. The hospitals should be a required to provide a ride service home. Patients should not be having to depend on a friend, it should all be pre arranged with a guaranteed ride from the hospital to the home.
My strategy (since I had nobody to ride me home) was I used a fake name and number. After the procedure I played the white lie game with the nurses. I said my ride will pick me up outside, then I said my ride flaked. Then they said you can go home on your own.
That strategy will not work at all hospitals. I know someone who had a procedure at Flushing Hospital some years back and failed with that as the hospital required that escort come into the hospital (and I was called to come by public transportation to be that escort!). Another situation at Flushing Hospital was also over 10 years where I had a procedure at Flushing Hospital and a staff member escorted me outside to curbside and made sure I was being picked up by someone I know. More recently (just under 2 years ago) I had a procedure at NY Presbyterian Queens and the person picking me up didn't want to pay for parking (or look for parking) and the staff refused to allow me to go unless the person picking me up presented themselves in the ward by name to pick me up (and that exactly what my escort was forced to do and did).
That strategy will not work at all hospitals. I know someone who had a procedure at Flushing Hospital some years back and failed with that as the hospital required that escort come into the hospital (and I was called to come by public transportation to be that escort!). Another situation at Flushing Hospital was also over 10 years where I had a procedure at Flushing Hospital and a staff member escorted me outside to curbside and made sure I was being picked up by someone I know. More recently (just under 2 years ago) I had a procedure at NY Presbyterian Queens and the person picking me up didn't want to pay for parking (or look for parking) and the staff refused to allow me to go unless the person picking me up presented themselves in the ward by name to pick me up (and that exactly what my escort was forced to do and did).
It is truly a troubling situation because the patient is already under stress prior to surgery and if their ride home is not secured it is just one more stressor. However I do agree with the hospital enforcing the requirement because (like myself) once I can stand up and walk around like any New Yorker I want out of that hospital pronto and I want to smell the fresh air outside and Go Home and rest. Nobody wants to wait around forever.
What I did for my procedure, the day before, I made confusing phone calls to
1) my insurance company
2) my doctors office
3) 311 and
4) a couple acquaintances that were too busy to pick me up that day
So it is not like I did not try getting a ride home. I already took the day off work for a procedure so I am not going to cancel just because I have no ride.
I’m not going to specify the hospitals I have visited but both times I had to use fake names and walk out on my own. Also I might add that one time I walked out of the hospital and tried flagging a cab for at least 5 minutes in the cold weather and none were lulling over. This was after a procedure so I needed to find a CVS for pain meds and just Go Home already, so had to walk multiple blocks and finally found a BUS!!! I bused home.
Not recommended. But look how the hospital almost structured it so it WAS a liability. I made it home safe though.
Another time after a procedure I did the same thing and felt halfway decent leaving but by the time I walked down into the subway I felt really yucky. In that case I should have got a cab because I felt like I could tough my way through it, and I chose the subway. By the time I walked down the steps onto the platform I started to feel very sick. I made it home okay though it was slightly scary.
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