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Old 04-21-2023, 04:39 AM
 
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I think there could be an issue of liability.
I think this is main reason for the required medical escort (meaning so that the healthcare provider isn't liable if something happena to the patient within a set time after leaving the facility).
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:01 AM
 
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There is a "hotel" for post-natal new moms and their infants staffed with among other things (IIRC) nurses and nursing assistants.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...-new-moms.html

There are also hotels and hostels were persons can stay before or after surgery or other procedures in NYC hospitals.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...-new-moms.html


https://www.hss.edu/hotel-accommodations.asp

Or Connecticut: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/16/n...r-healing.html
The issue is that the discharged patient still needs supervision post-procedure. The hotel associated with the hospital would have to have nursing staff checking regularly on the person (some do, and others mostly don't, have that).
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:15 AM
 
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I think this is main reason for the required medical escort (meaning so that the healthcare provider isn't liable if something happena to the patient within a set time after leaving the facility).
No, there are real medical reasons (some of the medications used are not fully metabolized at the time of discharge, and some of the changes in the brain induced by anesthesia take time to resolve). I had a minor surgery in my 20s, and could not keep awake for a week afterwards (granted, that was when barbiturates were still used, which have been replaced by shorter acting propofol).
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Old 04-21-2023, 09:08 AM
 
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Incompetent doctors are merely trying to shift blame for their screw-ups onto patients.
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Old 04-21-2023, 09:01 PM
 
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Out patient procedures are a wonderful thing in terms of cost savings, convenience, and so forth, but they aren't always risk free.

People are still receiving pain meds, anesthetics and other drugs that may take several hours to wear off. There is also (depending upon type of procedure) risks of things such as nausea, vomiting, bleeding, and so on.

Thus for a host of reasons (usually down to liability) physicians performing certain out patient procedures require someone who will escort patient home and sometimes even remain for several hours to overnight afterwards.

Alternative is having things done in hospital (inpatient) which not only is more expensive but depending upon procedure insurance may not cover all or as much. Coloscopies nowadays are rarely performed in hospital unless there is a good reason why it cannot be done as outpatient.
Actually, there could be other possibilities, such as major medical facilities contracting with a car services for reduced rates as needed.

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Anyone who lives alone knows this is a problematic situation. One needs to ask even an acquaintance or neighbor if necessary. The other solution some medical facilities might let one wait there for a few hours before going home alone if the procedure is done early enough during the day.
In theory, this sounds like an obvious solution, but it curl be something private that the patient doesn't want others to know about, and - let's face it - in a city like NYC where everyone is busy, it's an imposition especially during the working day.
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Old 04-22-2023, 04:44 AM
 
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No, there are real medical reasons (some of the medications used are not fully metabolized at the time of discharge, and some of the changes in the brain induced by anesthesia take time to resolve). I had a minor surgery in my 20s, and could not keep awake for a week afterwards (granted, that was when barbiturates were still used, which have been replaced by shorter acting propofol).
Then they should be under medical supervision and not be discharged until they can be on their own!
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Old 04-22-2023, 06:10 AM
 
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how would you ever know at what point they are good to leave ?

insurers wouldn’t pay for keeping people much longer then the procedures and monitoring them as well or testing them to see if the effects are gone
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Old 04-23-2023, 05:01 AM
 
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how would you ever know at what point they are good to leave ?

insurers wouldn’t pay for keeping people much longer then the procedures and monitoring them as well or testing them to see if the effects are gone
Obviously medical professionals know approx. how much time for anesthesia to wear off or basic recovery from procedures.

The main problem is that insurance companies don't want to pay patients to be looked after for that extra amount of time.
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Old 04-23-2023, 05:03 AM
 
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key word is approx ... if they are off it can present legal issues ..

being close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
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Old 04-25-2023, 11:39 AM
 
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There's these things called friends...
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