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Old 02-05-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Westbury,NY
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I'm suprised to see so little discussion about the MTA Budget crisis. These could be just the first in a series of cuts that could cripple the city. Do we really want a return to 1970s style subway service?

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Old 02-05-2010, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Do you think they will stop the M line?
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Westbury,NY
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Do you think they will stop the M line?
With these budget problems, the M line could be just the beginning of lines cut.
I wouldn't be suprised if the MTA suggested suspending overnight subway and bus service at this point. It seems that just like the 70s, the State is leaving NYC for dead.
Paterson is the worst thing to happen to us for a long time.
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Old 02-06-2010, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Do you think they will stop the M line?
In the first place, there will have to be public hearings. And in the second place, the proposal isn't to eliminate service. The V line would be extended from 2 Avenue to Metropolitan, replacing M service. (Think about it: people along the Broadway Brooklyn line won't have to deal with that horrible transfer to 6 Avenue trains at Essex Street. You'll be able to stay on the V!)

As regards the MTA "budget crisis," this is hardly something to get all overexcited about. It happens fairly regularly. Former City Comptroller Thompson found that MTA actually keeps more than one set of books. The real question is why the governor (who nominally oversees MTA) doesn't do anything about that. Governor Rockefeller created MTA as a means for stashing money away. When something is done to resolve that little game, we can all stop paying attention to the regular "crises" that MTA seems to enjoy so much.
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Old 02-06-2010, 07:37 AM
 
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The Problem with the MTA is its has Too Much duplicating positions - Too many Agencies - and Too Many Unions.....The MTA desparately needs consolidation under the umbrella...

For example - Why is there MTA New York City Bus, MTA Bus, MTA Long Island Bus - These 3 Agencies need to be consolidated to just make MTA New York Metro Bus All under 1 Union and 1 Management base.

Until this problem is solved there will always be budget problem with MTA....Don't believe that LOAD of CRAP about "NO NEW FARE" we are looking straight down barrell at 3$ possibly even 4$ fare very soon, 30-day Unlimiteds will be well over 100$ a month. And guess what even with fares at those prices it's only a Band Aid solution, 2011 2012 MTA will be crying again.
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Old 02-06-2010, 04:11 PM
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The Problem with the MTA is its has Too Much duplicating positions - Too many Agencies - and Too Many Unions.....The MTA desparately needs consolidation under the umbrella...

For example - Why is there MTA New York City Bus, MTA Bus, MTA Long Island Bus - These 3 Agencies need to be consolidated to just make MTA New York Metro Bus All under 1 Union and 1 Management base.
All those 3 operating agencies have been consolidated, at least in the managerial level. Now they're legally known as "MTA Regional Bus Operations".
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Old 02-06-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Question: The MTA is a vast network. It includes not only the city subway service but other rail lines beyond city limits like the LIRR, MetroNorth. Would these be impacted by potential cuts or just trimming service within the boro's? Personally I think it would be a disaster if they did cut back on public transit since so many people use it
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:48 PM
 
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I'm suprised to see so little discussion about the MTA Budget crisis. These could be just the first in a series of cuts that could cripple the city...
Nope, just the opposite. Public transportation is not the solution of the problem. It's contributing to the problem.

This city is way overcrowded, and thus living standards (per dollar) are very low. That happens when there are artificial barriers preventing market forces to rectify the situation. Those barriers are city and state bureaucrats poring obscene amount of taxpayers money to their public projects. That makes situation only worse. If there were no public transit, it would be more expensive and difficult to commute, there would be less people doing it, and it would cost companies much more doing business in the city, so they would move to more business friendly areas. When companies move, people move too. The city would quickly shrink in population, resulting in better living standards and healthier environment.
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Crown Heights
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Nope, just the opposite. Public transportation is not the solution of the problem. It's contributing to the problem.

This city is way overcrowded, and thus living standards (per dollar) are very low. That happens when there are artificial barriers preventing market forces to rectify the situation. Those barriers are city and state bureaucrats poring obscene amount of taxpayers money to their public projects. That makes situation only worse. If there were no public transit, it would be more expensive and difficult to commute, there would be less people doing it, and it would cost companies much more doing business in the city, so they would move to more business friendly areas. When companies move, people move too. The city would quickly shrink in population, resulting in better living standards and healthier environment.
come again? Something about that solution really doesn't mesh with reality
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:56 PM
 
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Nope, just the opposite. Public transportation is not the solution of the problem. It's contributing to the problem.

This city is way overcrowded, and thus living standards (per dollar) are very low. That happens when there are artificial barriers preventing market forces to rectify the situation. Those barriers are city and state bureaucrats poring obscene amount of taxpayers money to their public projects. That makes situation only worse. If there were no public transit, it would be more expensive and difficult to commute, there would be less people doing it, and it would cost companies much more doing business in the city, so they would move to more business friendly areas. When companies move, people move too. The city would quickly shrink in population, resulting in better living standards and healthier environment.
That makes absolutely zero sense. based on your other posts i realize you hate any thing that is city like. but come on. some people actually LIKE the subway. maybe not you but it seems to be better than attempting to drive uptown and attempting to find a parking space for work.
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