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Old 02-27-2022, 05:26 AM
 
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It goes beyond just one election, as in local elections, people may vote differently. That was my point, as there are plenty of Republicans across the state, including Downstate, that are in elected positions at the county to very local levels.
Local elections are a different animal. Party affiliation doesn't matter as much in terms of ideals, but more so in terms of the machinery. Local republican committees traditionally have held office, and therefore held the access to patronage jobs.

"You're up for a promotion? Better make sure you get signatures on these petitions"

"Kid wants that coveted summer lifeguard gig? Well we could use a few tickets sold for this fundraiser"

"Make sure you get everyone you know to vote for us. If the other guys win, you'll all be laid off and your family will be in the poor house"
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Old 02-27-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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Local elections are a different animal. Party affiliation doesn't matter as much in terms of ideals, but more so in terms of the machinery. Local republican committees traditionally have held office, and therefore held the access to patronage jobs.

"You're up for a promotion? Better make sure you get signatures on these petitions"

"Kid wants that coveted summer lifeguard gig? Well we could use a few tickets sold for this fundraiser"

"Make sure you get everyone you know to vote for us. If the other guys win, you'll all be laid off and your family will be in the poor house"
There may be some truth to that, but that can be the same with Democrats in regards to say Union positions as well or those same positions. With that said, there are just some areas in the state that just lean more Republican and vote that way or there is more of a mix. This can occur at various levels too.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:21 AM
 
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There may be some truth to that, but that can be the same with Democrats in regards to say Union positions as well or those same positions. With that said, there are just some areas in the state that just lean more Republican and vote that way or there is more of a mix. This can occur at various levels too.
Both parties have their spheres of influence. I'm from an area of the state where Republicans dominate the local government, and their machine is much more organized than the local Democrats. At the same time, statewide and federal offices are dominated by democrats. The Republicans don't seem to mind, though. They rarely put up viable candidates for those spots, and I think it comes back to wanting the local control. There isn't much patronage or influence to be had as a congressman, so it is wasted effort.
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Old 02-27-2022, 11:24 AM
 
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Both parties have their spheres of influence. I'm from an area of the state where Republicans dominate the local government, and their machine is much more organized than the local Democrats. At the same time, statewide and federal offices are dominated by democrats. The Republicans don't seem to mind, though. They rarely put up viable candidates for those spots, and I think it comes back to wanting the local control. There isn't much patronage or influence to be had as a congressman, so it is wasted effort.
Hmm…Great point, especially since they realize that the term “all politics is local” isn’t just a cliché. So, it may be a matter of the people realizing that and considering how much impact our very local political offices have on their residents.
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Old 03-05-2022, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Nnnnnnnnope.
None of them have a shot. Republicans should quit wasting time in state wide elections.
That stupid island on the Hudson River controls the entire state.
this right here

Hochuls gonna win by a landslide

Letitia James, and Jumaaane Williams were fuggin FOOLS to run for governor, when they never had the support to do so

If Andrew comes back with a strong PR case, which he's starting to do now, things might get interesting
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Old 03-05-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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this right here

Hochuls gonna win by a landslide

Letitia James, and Jumaaane Williams were fuggin FOOLS to run for governor, when they never had the support to do so

If Andrew comes back with a strong PR case, which he's starting to do now, things might get interesting
Cuomo is a laughing stock. And he’s already in trouble for using campaign funds or something for his “Mr. Innocent” campaign. It’s gonna be Hochul.
More taxes, more regulations, less services, less freedom.
You wonder why they call it the “Empire” state.
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Old 03-10-2022, 09:23 AM
 
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This is a blue state, the majority votes Democratic, no matter how terrible they are.
While true, it should be pointed out that it's really the majority who actually vote are the ones who vote democrat.

We haven't seen more than 50% voter turnout in a gubernatorial election since 1994. In 2014, only 33% of voters showed up at the polls. While Cuomo beat Astorino by a wide margin (54.3% to 40.3%), that election could have easily gone a different way. TWO-THIRDS of people never bothered to vote.

While 3.6 million votes were cast, there were another 7.3 million votes that were not. Astorino lost by 530,000 votes. If only a few people stopped complaining from their living room couch and did their complaining in a voting booth, Cuomo would have lost.

In the recent mayoral election, NYC saw a 20% voter turnout. That's pathetic.

Sure, NYC is blue and runs the state. However, apathy is a factor. If 80% of the NYC voters stay home watching TV, the rest of the state has a chance to make their voice heard. All it takes is a minimum effort to get off your butt and vote. If you are not going to vote, it's hypocritical to complain.

Astorino came as close as anyone with an "R" can get... and that was running against the anointed one (Cuomo). Cuomo is now disgraced. Hochul is basically an unknown to the general public. To many, she comes across as a looney. If there was ever a time for the Republicans to win the race, this is it.

Unfortunately, it looks like they want to anoint Zeldin (primaries don't matter in NYS. Candidates are hand-picked by party officials). A flatlander doesn't fly for many upstate areas.

Elections are won and lost not just by how many votes are cast. They are also determined by how many people you convince to stay home because of lackluster/unlikable candidates and convincing people "your vote doesn't matter."
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Old 03-10-2022, 09:04 PM
 
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While true, it should be pointed out that it's really the majority who actually vote are the ones who vote democrat.

We haven't seen more than 50% voter turnout in a gubernatorial election since 1994. In 2014, only 33% of voters showed up at the polls. While Cuomo beat Astorino by a wide margin (54.3% to 40.3%), that election could have easily gone a different way. TWO-THIRDS of people never bothered to vote.

While 3.6 million votes were cast, there were another 7.3 million votes that were not. Astorino lost by 530,000 votes. If only a few people stopped complaining from their living room couch and did their complaining in a voting booth, Cuomo would have lost.

In the recent mayoral election, NYC saw a 20% voter turnout. That's pathetic.

Sure, NYC is blue and runs the state. However, apathy is a factor. If 80% of the NYC voters stay home watching TV, the rest of the state has a chance to make their voice heard. All it takes is a minimum effort to get off your butt and vote. If you are not going to vote, it's hypocritical to complain.

Astorino came as close as anyone with an "R" can get... and that was running against the anointed one (Cuomo). Cuomo is now disgraced. Hochul is basically an unknown to the general public. To many, she comes across as a looney. If there was ever a time for the Republicans to win the race, this is it.

Unfortunately, it looks like they want to anoint Zeldin (primaries don't matter in NYS. Candidates are hand-picked by party officials). A flatlander doesn't fly for many upstate areas.

Elections are won and lost not just by how many votes are cast. They are also determined by how many people you convince to stay home because of lackluster/unlikable candidates and convincing people "your vote doesn't matter."
Thank you!

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