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Old 05-20-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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This should be an interesting discussion.

So what do you think about the new Pathfinder? 4 cylinder supercharged gas engine with a "compact" lithium-ion battery pack.

2014 Nissan Pathfinder Hybrid SUV | Nissan USA

2014 Nissan Pathfinder Hybrid Photos and Info – News – Car and Driver

I'm up in the air about it. Hybrid is generally a good idea, but I'm not sure about this combination. Is there enough of an increase in mileage to offset the $3000 additional cost?
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Remember when the Nissan Pathfinder was a Very Rugged off-Road Capable SUV like the old first and second Gen Explorer was back in the day.


Seems it went lost it's truck Based body on frame roots for a car like CUV Uni-body type of family hauler
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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I often wonder why they don't do both. I suppose it's the way of the future with the higher required mileage so there's no place for the kind of vehicle Pathfinder was.

Of course those people who need the abilities of that type of truck are royally screwed when they are no longer available.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Funkotron, MA
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Remember when the Nissan Pathfinder was a Very Rugged off-Road Capable SUV like the old first and second Gen Explorer was back in the day.


Seems it went lost it's truck Based body on frame roots for a car like CUV Uni-body type of family hauler
I haven't been paying much attention to the Pathfinder the last several years. I just clicked the link for the pictures and wow you're right!

It's taken the shape of the dreded, generic four-door miniva.. I mean crossover.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I often wonder why they don't do both. I suppose it's the way of the future with the higher required mileage so there's no place for the kind of vehicle Pathfinder was.

Of course those people who need the abilities of that type of truck are royally screwed when they are no longer available.
yeah the time when SUV's really were Sport Utility Vehicles are over.

Heck the original design of the Pathfinder was to compete with the Blazer, Bronco and 4-runner and jeeps of the day.

The North American first generation Pathfinder came in two different bodies and shared styling and most components with the Nissan Hardbody Truck.

Built on a ladder-type frame, the Pathfinder was Nissan's response to the Chevrolet Blazer, Ford Bronco, Jeep Cherokee, and non-American SUVs like the Toyota 4Runner, Isuzu Trooper, and the Mitsubishi Montero.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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LOL from the C&D comments section:
"Say goodbye to Mr. Pathfinder and hello to Mrs. Mallfinder"
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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yeah the time when SUV's really were Sport Utility Vehicles are over.
Well... the time of SUVs isn't over, the time of people using SUVs as lifted stationwagons is over. SUVs have been replaced by unibody crossovers that deliver the on-road driving experience and space consumers want, not the off road and truck capabilities that are inherent in an SUV.

There are still SUVs around, but they are receding to the popularity they had before the shift from minivans to SUVs/CUVs exploded.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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LOL from the C&D comments section:
"Say goodbye to Mr. Pathfinder and hello to Mrs. Mallfinder"
That is pretty funny. Nissan has actually gone back and forth between frame and unibody with the Pathfinder before. The last gen Pathfinder was a body on frame truck, the gen before it a unibody, and the original gen was a frame truck as well.

I think Nissan views the Pathfinder as a neighborhood commuter now and left the truck duty to the Xterra.
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Body on frame is overrated anyway. The Cherokee/Grand Cherokee has always been competent off-road, it's no Wrangler, but good enough. It's not really so much the unibody as the design. I think it's a nice Mallfinder, but I wouldn't try to find any unpaved paths in it.

I always enjoyed reading clueless hack journalists reacting to the new Cherokee and how they keep mentioning its now more a CUV than SUV now because of the unibody. Makes you seriously question who writes these articles. They obviously know nothing about cars and are too lazy to even do their research... but I guess the flowery prose is what sells advertising.

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Old 05-20-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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Well, there's real value in a body on frame design when you need it. It was a specialized design once unibody became mainstream, it just took automakers 20 years to make unibody versions of the vehicles people really wanted - station wagons with high seating positions and 6" of ground clearance!
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