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View Poll Results: which city and why? what does the other city need to do to get your vote?
Raleigh-Durham 243 42.63%
Charlotte 327 57.37%
Voters: 570. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-21-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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I can't find any stats on downtown Raleigh, but there ARE NOT 106,000 residents! That would make it larger than most major cities.
Sorry JT, I used that link as a trap to lure CLT1985 to make a point about MSA's. He took the bait hook, line and sinker!

 
Old 04-21-2015, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The bait was set and you walked right into it!

You mean like Charlotte's MSA takes in a wider circle and 7 counties vs Raleigh's smaller circumference MSA and 3 counties?? You can call that an equal comparison though, right?? No I'm sorry, the link clearly says "Downtown Raleigh", doest matter how wide a circle, downtown Raleigh much bigger than uptown Charlotte! Says it right there! BOOM!
You can not expect any better from some Raleigh poster. All the want to do is hand out insults.

That figure is about 25% of Raleigh is part of downtown.
25% of Charlotte population would be 198,2016
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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You can not expect any better from some Raleigh poster. All the want to do is hand out insults.

That figure is about 25% of Raleigh is part of downtown.
25% of Charlotte population would be 198,2016
How is it insulting to point out a double standard? It's says "downtown Raleigh", doesn't matter how wide an area compared to uptown Charlotte. Just like it apparently doesn't matter that Charlotte's MSA is greater circumference taking in 7 counties to Raleigh's smaller circumference MSA taking in just 3 counties, but you keep using Charlotte's MSA as if to make a point the Charlotte metro so much bigger . So why can't Raleigh's downtown be considered a 2 mile wider circle than Charlotte's? That's a far comparison, no??

Charlotte CSA - 2,442,000 (10 counties)
Raleigh CSA - 2,075,000 (9 counties)

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Old 04-21-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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How is it insulting to point out a double standard? It's says "downtown Raleigh", doesn't matter how wide an area compared to uptown Charlotte. Just like it apparently doesn't matter that Charlotte's MSA is greater circumference taking in 7 counties to Raleigh's 3 but you keep pointing out Charlotte's MSA is bigger. It's a fair comparison no?? Apples to apples would be CSA's

Charlotte CSA - 2,442,000 (10 counties)
Raleigh CSA - 2,075,000 (9 counties)
All we are asking is what area are they using for downtown.
Charlotte MSA 2,511,577
Raleigh MSA 1,242,974
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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All we are asking is what area are they using for downtown.
I'm sure they're probably using a wider circumference for downtown Raleigh than what Charlotte is using….just like Charlotte uses a wider circumference for their MSA than Raleigh uses. If you want a fair comparison for both you need to take in the exact same area from the center of town for both downtowns AND for both MSA's. That's a fair comparison for both. Anything else is fudging. I was proving a point.
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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Sorry JT, I used that link as a trap to lure CLT1985 to make a point about MSA's. He took the bait hook, line and sinker!
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:27 PM
 
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All we are asking is what area are they using for downtown.
Charlotte MSA 2,511,577
Raleigh MSA 1,242,974
Charlotte MSA 7 counties, wide circle 2,511,577
Raleigh MSA 3 counties, small circle 1,242,974[
^not a fair and equal comparison^

Charlotte CSA 10 counties, wide circle 2,493,040
Raleigh CSA 9 counties, wide circle 2,037,430
^fair and equal comparison^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Statistical_Area
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: MONDAY, MARCH 26, 2012

Growth in Urban Population Outpaces Rest of Nation, Census Bureau Reports

Among urbanized areas with populations of 1 million or more, the Charlotte, N.C.-S.C., area grew at the fastest rate, increasing by 64.6 percent, followed by the Austin, Texas, area, at 51.1 percent, and Las Vegas-Henderson, Nev., at 43.5 percent. The Charlotte and Austin areas also had the highest rates of land area change, increasing by 70.5 percent and 64.4 percent, respectively.
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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It's doubtful that over 5,000 live in downtown Raleigh...not to dismiss downtown Raleigh because I like it, but it hasn't truly caught on as a place to live for most people. Uptown Charlotte hasn't really either, but even much larger cities often don't have great downtown populations.
As of 2012 it was over 5000, http://www.godowntownraleigh.com/_fi...tialmarket.pdf
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I'm sure they're probably using a wider circumference for downtown Raleigh than what Charlotte is using….just like Charlotte uses a wider circumference for their MSA than Raleigh uses. If you want a fair comparison for both you need to take in the exact same area from the center of town for both downtowns AND for both MSA's. That's a fair comparison for both. Anything else is fudging. I was proving a point.
Charlotte has no choice on how the US census lays out it Metro Area just like Raleigh has no say.
If you have a problem contact The US Census Bureau. I don't think you will have any luck.

If Charlotte had its way it would drop 3 county that drag down the Metro.

New census information will be out around July 01, 2015.

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