Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-24-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
1,141 posts, read 1,034,181 times
Reputation: 530

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofaque86 View Post
Greensboro is a smaller version of Greenville and Columbia...Something to think about lol....Greenville and Columbia are already larger and have been for a while. I just don't think Greensboro is a popular next choice. I'm sure Charleston is already larger than Greensboro in 2017 with the growth rate. Just something to think about, I know Charlotte probably relies on Charleston a lot when it comes to the port and thought that would play a role too in numbers.

But sorry for changing subject on the thread. Just thought it was interesting to see SC numbers since the Charlotte and Myrtle Beach Metros are shared between both states and Greenville borders NC!

2015
Greenville - 874,869
Columbia - 810,068
Greensboro - 752,157
Charleston - 744,526
Well like i said goes to show how much i knew or at least in my mind what the perception was lol. I haven't been to Columbia or Greenville in many years. Would you say they also feel more urban? It developed i guess is the better word.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-24-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
4,980 posts, read 5,396,460 times
Reputation: 4363
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent Y View Post
Well like i said goes to show how much i knew or at least in my mind what the perception was lol. I haven't been to Columbia or Greenville in many years. Would you say they also feel more urban? It developed i guess is the better word.

From a Charlotte perspective:


Greenville is “widely known” (In the CLT/ATL urban nerd circles) these days as doing such an amazing job with their downtown. Great retail, great pedestrian infrastructure, a riverwalk, etc. I personally would put downtown Greenville ahead of Greensboro, Columbia & Winston.

I think Greenville is also much more recognized in Charlotte/Atlanta because they’re close, and both metros usually pick at Greenville (economically)and vice-versa. Companies relocate to Greenville and from Greenville to ATL/CLT. Sometimes it’s a good relationship. For example, Lufthansa’s flight from Charlotte - Munich is filled with BMW workers. I think BMW even subsidizes a portion of seats on Lufthansa. Greenville also is a strong competitor to ATL/CLT for relocations sometimes. I never sensed we had as strong economic ties with Columbia as much as Greenville


Also, lots of people from the entire metro Charlotte go to Gaffney for their outlet mall. And then Spartanburg, a metro of 300,000 does a lot of business with metro Charlotte.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
1,141 posts, read 1,034,181 times
Reputation: 530
Interesting indeed. Ill have to get down that way sooner then later. I actually have friends of the family in Columbia and Greenville.

Back to NC. Do we think or know why the Triad cities are not projected to grow nearly as much as these SC cities? I get why that's the case against Charlotte, Raleigh, Durham, Charleston, and Myrtle Beach. But again, it just seems like Gboro and WS and pretty similiar to Columbia or Greenville.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
23,814 posts, read 34,693,648 times
Reputation: 10256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent Y View Post
Interesting indeed. Ill have to get down that way sooner then later. I actually have friends of the family in Columbia and Greenville.

Back to NC. Do we think or know why the Triad cities are not projected to grow nearly as much as these SC cities? I get why that's the case against Charlotte, Raleigh, Durham, Charleston, and Myrtle Beach. But again, it just seems like Gboro and WS and pretty similiar to Columbia or Greenville.
Projections are probably based on Nikki Haley's track record of scoring big jobs & McCrory's track record of losing them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
1,141 posts, read 1,034,181 times
Reputation: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by southbound_295 View Post
Projections are probably based on Nikki Haley's track record of scoring big jobs & McCrory's track record of losing them.
Mmmm but that doesn't add up with the explosive growth in Charlotte or the Triangle though. Aside from political opinions let's say lol
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
23,814 posts, read 34,693,648 times
Reputation: 10256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent Y View Post
Mmmm but that doesn't add up with the explosive growth in Charlotte or the Triangle though. Aside from political opinions let's say lol
Do I have to remind you of the Volvo plant?

Is it political when one Republican (Haley) proved to be good at getting large projects when another Republican (McCrory) proved to be ineffectual?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
1,141 posts, read 1,034,181 times
Reputation: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by southbound_295 View Post
Do I have to remind you of the Volvo plant?

Is it political when one Republican (Haley) proved to be good at getting large projects when another Republican (McCrory) proved to be ineffectual?
I guess i need to remind you i specifically was talking about Greenville and Columbia in comparison to Greensboro and Winston Salem. Not Charleston. Charlotte and the Triangle have their reasons for big growth. Charleston and Myrtle Beach have more obvious reasons for growth compared to the other SC metros as well. I was just wondering if anybody had interesting info on why it is those metro's are trending up much faster then Gboro and WS when i believe they are pretty similiar. Especially with having a textile based history and what not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 02:50 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
23,814 posts, read 34,693,648 times
Reputation: 10256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent Y View Post
I guess i need to remind you i specifically was talking about Greenville and Columbia in comparison to Greensboro and Winston Salem. Not Charleston. Charlotte and the Triangle have their reasons for big growth. Charleston and Myrtle Beach have more obvious reasons for growth compared to the other SC metros as well. I was just wondering if anybody had interesting info on why it is those metro's are trending up much faster then Gboro and WS when i believe they are pretty similiar. Especially with having a textile based history and what not.
That's why I specifically cited Volvo. That was supposed to be a Triad project, but Nikki Haley snagged it. She had control of her legislature. McCrory couldn't get Berger under control. It was discussed a lot on these boards.

Greenville has the BMW plant.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
1,141 posts, read 1,034,181 times
Reputation: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by southbound_295 View Post
That's why I specifically cited Volvo. That was supposed to be a Triad project, but Nikki Haley snagged it. She had control of her legislature. McCrory couldn't get Berger under control. It was discussed a lot on these boards.

Greenville has the BMW plant.
Ok fair enough. Is there anything though aside from politics snagging jobs that you find make those two cities more desirable then WS and Gboro? Or do you think that 25% projected growth is unwarranted?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-24-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
23,814 posts, read 34,693,648 times
Reputation: 10256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent Y View Post
Ok fair enough. Is there anything though aside from politics snagging jobs that you find make those two cities more desirable then WS and Gboro? Or do you think that 25% projected growth is unwarranted?
Are you aware that the Upstate rode out the recession in better shape than most other areas because of the BMW plant?

Like Raleigh, Columbia is a state capital.

If Berger can be reigned in to get some large, good paying projects they might be able to turn it around in the Triad. They aren't doing something wrong. They have been growing. Had they gotten Volvo, you'd probably be looking at a spike in population right now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:22 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top